You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Wolfblade » Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:54 am

I'd echo some previous sentiment and go with an AA-12.

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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Gatshicenteri » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:26 pm

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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby FireEagle1071ad » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:48 pm

AR-15 with
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.50 beo upper for outside

You said 1 gun, wonderful folks at the ATF says the lower is the gun so with your unlimited ammo variety I will be choosing multiple uppers and ammo types to fit the needs as I move along.
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Charra » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:38 am

.505 Gibbs if I'm encountering Dinosaurs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBh9J1YZzZY

Though I prefer a .375 Holland & Holland myself, there's a special place in my heart for the .505, .404 and .416.
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Regular Guy » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:59 am

Regular Guy wrote:Imaginary weaponry spawn: F/A 45/70 AK 47 with 25 rd mags. Massive PWS break and a EOtech.


Imaginary weapon-respawn: F/A .458 Win HK 91 with 20rd mags, a large muzzle break and an micro Aimpoint. Yeah, that would be a ride and a half.
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Niblick » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:09 pm

HK G3 with sniper scope. First I'd climb a tree, then I'd bait the dinos...and here's where the plan gets masterful. You gotta SNIPE the t-rexs through the eye. Jurassic Park tree sniper FTW!
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby MonsterZero » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:17 pm

When did this become a hunting expedition?
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby FrANkNstEin » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:37 pm

When did this become a hunting expedition?


Right at the time when we decided that only a dead "evil big reptile" is a good "evil big reptile"? :wink:

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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby FrANkNstEin » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:39 pm

You know what? Scratch that!

I want something like this, it worked the last time....:

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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby john917v » Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:44 pm

I'd take either a FAL or an AA12. I'm thinking more the AA12. If only they made grenade launchers for FALs...Oops, they do :twisted:
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Jeriah » Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:56 pm

OK, I think the AA12 could work, if and really ONLY IF it was loaded entirely with Frag-12 grenade rounds. I don't think buckshot stands a snowball's chance in hell of penetrating a T-rex's hide and body deeply enough to hit its heart, and the brain is such a needle-in-a-haystack hit I don't think it's likely. But I think a Frag-12 to the face would deter just about anything.
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Kva47 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:19 pm

If I'm remembering correctly, Muldoon (the game warden) mentioned that the raptors were a bitch twice over to kill with anything short of a CNS shot in the book. With that thought, I'd want a Saiga-12 loaded with a drum full of tungsten buckshot for raptors, and a backup drum of frag-12's to dissuade the bigger ones.
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Bearcat » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:24 pm

Why does everyone want a shotgun? I don't want to be that close to any dino to use it...
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby bamboo spear » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:59 pm

I think it's because those raptors are fast and agile, pack hunters, and have kind of a narrow, bobbing-up-and-down front profile, so if two or three of them are chasing you through a dense jungle, it might be hard to get a bead on them with an FAL or AR, but with a semi-auto 12 gauge loaded with buckshot (which should be able to bring down a raptor), you might have a better chance or popping one.

I'd say agility is the main thing - you wouldn't want to be weighed down, and you'd want to be able to climb or swim (although I sure as hell wouldn't want to get in the water in Jurassic Park, and definately not on Skull Island!)

Avoiding a T-Rex completely would probably be the only way to survive an encounter with one of those. Well, maybe one of those WW2 flamethrower backpacks would encourage it to eat something else.
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Jeriah » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:14 pm

I think there is a general exaggeration of the toughness of a T-rex or other large dinosaurs. Let's put this in perspective:

A full grown T. rex weighed between 4.7 and 7.2 metric tons. Its skull is massive but highly fenestrated (punched full of window-like holes) and pneumatized (bones basically made of Styrofoam). Don't think of its skull as being like a tank, it's more like a sports car: built to flex and compress when it hits shit, so it doesn't break, but not designed to withstand projectile fire. T-rex had to have a very light skull to let it be big enough to deliver a really powerful bite, without being so heavy that it pitched forward on its face. Its skin was covered in mosaic-like scales, not heavy armor plate.

A male African elephant weighs almost exactly the same as a T. rex: between 4.7 and 6 metric tons. (For the T. rex the figures are an estimate, for the elephant it's a range.) Both stood about 4 meters tall (at the hip for T. rex, at the shoulder for an elephant, both the highest stable point on the body excluding the head).

I bet they're pretty similar in terms of difficulty to kill.

So this reference might help:

http://www.sciencepunk.com/2008/11/5-wa ... -elephant/
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Wolfblade » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:17 pm

Bearcat wrote:Why does everyone want a shotgun? I don't want to be that close to any dino to use it...


Because we'll be spending a lot of time in the jungle, and since an assault rifle would just annoy the buggers I'll go with an assault shotgun. I sure as hell ain't carrying a bolt action .577 in jungle CQB against apex predators.
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Kva47 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:21 pm

You mean dinosaurs weren't really invulnerable fleshtanks of carnage that could only be quelled by surface to air missile strikes? Way to ruin my childhood with science, Jeriah. :roll:
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby ei8htx » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:47 pm

The similarities and difference between an elephant and a T-Rex lie somewhere around that of a sheep and a wolf.
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Jeriah » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:52 pm

Kva47 wrote:You mean dinosaurs weren't really invulnerable fleshtanks of carnage that could only be quelled by surface to air missile strikes? Way to ruin my childhood with science, Jeriah. :roll:


Pfft, my childhood told me you could trash 'em with a Bobcat.



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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby MonsterZero » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:55 pm

Bearcat wrote:Why does everyone want a shotgun? I don't want to be that close to any dino to use it...


Because you probably won't have a choice but to get close to the raptors and dilophasaurs (though with the latter you're probably fucked anyway). You would be running through a jungle most of the time, with limited visibility even if you had weapon better for mid-long range, and dinosaurs that can run faster than you breathing down your neck.
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby RickOShea » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:59 pm

Jeriah wrote:I think there is a general exaggeration of the toughness of a T-rex or other large dinosaurs. Let's put this in perspective:

A full grown T. rex weighed between 4.7 and 7.2 metric tons. Its skull is massive but highly fenestrated (punched full of window-like holes) and pneumatized (bones basically made of Styrofoam). Don't think of its skull as being like a tank, it's more like a sports car: built to flex and compress when it hits shit, so it doesn't break, but not designed to withstand projectile fire. T-rex had to have a very light skull to let it be big enough to deliver a really powerful bite, without being so heavy that it pitched forward on its face. Its skin was covered in mosaic-like scales, not heavy armor plate.

A male African elephant weighs almost exactly the same as a T. rex: between 4.7 and 6 metric tons. (For the T. rex the figures are an estimate, for the elephant it's a range.) Both stood about 4 meters tall (at the hip for T. rex, at the shoulder for an elephant, both the highest stable point on the body excluding the head).

I bet they're pretty similar in terms of difficulty to kill.

Elephants have the "honey comb" skull structure, also. Gamewardens use FALs or G3s and put them down with brainshots fairly often when culling herds in Africa.

If you hit an elephant in the brain, his back legs collapse first. If it's front legs go first, you've just stunned it.

How could you tell with a T-Rex? :shock:
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby SeerSavant » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:11 pm

I think one gun is suicide, but I'm thinking something like an assault rifle with a nice heavy bullet, 308, 7.62 and a grenade launcher would be best served here.

I think concentrating on the TRex is wrong, or any other large creature, they are fewer, and a few grenades might change their mind, and a full magazine of 7.62 X 39 or 308 would probably buy you enough time to get the hell out of dodge, but the Raptors, and other smaller critters would scare the ever living shit outta me...

In a jungle, I'd guess a hundred yards is about as much as you could hope to get as far as range goes, so heavy rifles would be little effect, so I would want high capacity combined with a heavy hard hitting round.

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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby White Bear » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:20 pm

MonsterZero wrote:When did this become a hunting expedition?


There's an unspoken belief among the users of this forum.
"That which was once dead should remain dead and should it once again walk the earth, duty decrees that it must be sent back from whence it came. Preferably in the most bad-ass way possible. "

I would assume this applies to dinosaurs.
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Re: You're in Jurassic Park and can have one gun...

Postby Jeriah » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:24 pm

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MonsterZero wrote:When did this become a hunting expedition?


There's an unspoken belief among the users of this forum.
"That which was once dead should remain dead and should it once again walk the earth, duty decrees that it must be sent back from whence it came. Preferably in the most bad-ass way possible. "

I would assume this applies to dinosaurs.


Remarkably good logic, there.
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