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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:36 pm 
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Any thoughts on the hero in The Walking Dead using an old Colt Python w/a six inch barrel as his primary handgun?
Survivalist have touted .357's for years due to their ability to use Magnums as well as .38's, but in this fictional PAW, revolver ammo seems to be scarce. The hero ran out & his buddy managed to find only 4 rounds for him left in the bottom of a range bag.
With the exception of .38's used in back up guns, I honestly don't know of any L.E. agency which still carries revolver ammo in its stores, which leaves only commercial sources.
Personally, I don't carry my L frame S&W daily, but I do plan to include it & plenty of ammo as part of my emergency plans.
BTW, can anyone advise if Rick's is stainless or hard chromed?


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I'm sure that the gun bag that was reacquired by Grimes and his crew has a resupply of .357/.38 ammo. I think the writers chose the Colt Python for the lead character to be an imposing dramatic prop that grabs attention. It excels in that aspect.

Thanfully I am of the mentality that I can separate reality from works of fiction such as this, or I would be a man of significant baldness. I do not agree with the array of firearms that they have equipped the characters of the show with. I see a various amount of shotguns, handguns, two bolt-actions, and yet not one magazine-fed centerfire rifle. I am against this on many levels, but personally more of the mindset that I find shotguns and revolvers limited in function, as well as capacity. The firearms lingo is aggravating to say the least, especially in the first episode.

I wouldn't be able to enjoy this television series as much as I have if I let all this technical shit get in the way of an intriguing story.

OT: I believe this discussion would be better served in the Off Topic or Zombie Training Films section of the forum. It's discussion serves little purpose to the Firearms section, and will only stir debate about a work of fiction and the firearms within.

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Well Idiosyncratic_Pat makes a good point, as a plot device it says "I'm a bad ass and I mean business, I also don't am salt of the earth and use a revolver VS a evil black gun like a glock or god forbid I carry an AK (because those are only for bad guys :wink: )"

(pre walkers)
But on a practical point it also makes allot of sense for Rick to carry a big ass imposing gun as a cop in a small town, Seems like there was'nt allot of violent crime in his town, thus few reasons for Rick to draw his weapon consequently having a INTIMIDATING gun may be all Rick needs to stop a confrontation before it starts.

(post walkers)
So the shit hits the fan, is the .357 revolver still a good choice? I'd say no, in addition to not being magazine fed, reloading requires allot of dexterity that may be loss when being approached by a bunch of walkers. Also its loud, impossible to suppress both things that attract walkers. He would defiantly be better served by a more controllable caliber in a magazine fed gun as head shots are the only ones that count in this instance.

All that said, Rick is probably more comfortable with his revolver than any other hand gun, he knows the mechanics of the gun and ballistics of the rounds; does this make up for the gun being less than ideal? Only Rick knows :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:45 pm 
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I think the writers chose the Colt Python for the lead character to be an imposing dramatic prop that grabs attention. It excels in that aspect.


^This. It makes nice eye candy on screen. Yeah, the Colt Python is a good revolver as revolvers go, but there are many, better, options in handguns in this day and age. It is a cool show and cool shows are not always (or even, often) about what is practical.

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Actually, I think I was simply more curious if anyone knew if it was stainless or hard chrome.


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Nomad, while it may seem to us not to be the best weapon in the world to carry anymore. There are still officers in agencies around the country that still carry revolvers. If you travel through Philadelphia, PA you will see some members of that dept that still carry wheelguns. I was told that they are grandfathered in. I still see the occasional officer at police funerals that carry a wheelgun. I know even in my agency there are still guys that carry a 5 shot snubbie as a "New York Reload" although their primary duty weapon is a semi-auto.

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Looks like polished stainless to me.

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Pay attention to the one he's shooting. Unless the gun is actually firing in the shot he's toting a hard-rubber, non-functional prop. That's SOP on film sets.

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Could also have something to do with the fact that he works for the sherrif's dept. I could see how a Colt revolver would suit the charicter of a southern sherrif's deputy better on screen.

I know. I have to block out all the shotguns too. It takes place in GA for shit's sake. Fuckin' holleywood.

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olbaid_dratsab wrote:
Could also have something to do with the fact that he works for the sherrif's dept. I could see how a Colt revolver would suit the charicter of a southern sherrif's deputy better on screen.

I know. I have to block out all the shotguns too. It takes place in GA for shit's sake. Fuckin' holleywood.


Can't have every one running around with SKS's in Topco stocks now can we? :lol:


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True, the majoritiy of LE agencies have made the transition to semi-auto pistols, but the majority of officers at least on the westcoast, ie, LAPD and LASD still carry a five shot revolver as a backup weapon. I think a conservative estimate of 98% of all officers and deputies out here, still carry a revolver, so the availability of at least .38spl ammunition would not be a big issue.


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I think the only reason he has that Colt is to help make him stand out and be "cool".

In a sea of black plastic, one man is bold enough to go his own way with a bright SS wheelgun!

In his current situation I would ditch that bitch in a second and get something with lots of capacity!

Has any movie had a good guy sporting a Glock with a 33rd mag?

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Oh, yeah I know L.E.O.'s still use .38's for backups, just curious about using one for a primary. I think somebody nailed it, giving the hero a distinctive pistol like a big silver long barrled Python is the perfect way to portray him as a rugged individual "Dirty Harry" type character. Good call.


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To be fair to the production team in the comic Rick is seen with a revolver on page 18 center frame.On the other hand he uses a semi-auto on page 21 bottom right frame. So the revolver is not a complete fabrication just over emphasized compared to its prominence in the comics. As a plot device and way to differentiate him visually from the rest of the group this isn't a bad way to go. I guess to me the bigger mistake is using a Colt Python instead of a S&W 686.

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In some of the close-ups it looks nickel to me. BUT, I swear in some shots it looks like that colt turns into a S&W at a certain angle. Anyway, there are plenty of depts that have a list of approved side arms that the officers CAN carry at their own expense. Most go with semi auto hi-cap just because we know all bad guys carry AK's! :wink:
Even if a .357mag wheelgun was on the approved list, would any self-respecting lawdog go with a shiny 6.5" full lug barrel?? I mean, I can think of a few slower drawing guns but....really? Just fighting to get that thing in and out of the patrol car for a week and I'd shitcan it.

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Foxy wrote:
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Could also have something to do with the fact that he works for the sherrif's dept. I could see how a Colt revolver would suit the charicter of a southern sherrif's deputy better on screen.

I know. I have to block out all the shotguns too. It takes place in GA for shit's sake. Fuckin' holleywood.


Can't have every one running around with SKS's in Topco stocks now can we? :lol:



HA! Looks like I'm not the only one to step into a GA "gun" (PAWN) shop. Not here in PA. Gun shops are gun shops.

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Hey Agent Black, here's a self respecting lawdog :D DSP Trooper Davidson's Issue Colt 6inch Officers Model carried from 1929-1949. He's on the left with this sidearm in a crossdraw for use on a M/C. Kinda off topic but wanted to share LOL
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Paladin1 wrote:

Has any movie had a good guy sporting a Glock with a 33rd mag?


Morpheus fries those freaky dreadlocked twins in the second Matrix with a high-cap Glock 18 firing magical explodey bullets... and a katana
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Could also have something to do with the fact that he works for the sherrif's dept. I could see how a Colt revolver would suit the charicter of a southern sherrif's deputy better on screen.

I know. I have to block out all the shotguns too. It takes place in GA for shit's sake. Fuckin' holleywood.


Can't have every one running around with SKS's in Topco stocks now can we? :lol:


Hey, just WTF are you trying to say? :? Not everyone here in the South is some idiot with a jacked up SKS. I have 5 SKS rifles and ONLY one of them has a Tapco (not Topco) stock. :wink: That said, I actually like my Taco'd SKS quite a lot. It only needs a better magazine release and it would be faster to operate than my AK.

Back on topic, I find it refreshing that Rick uses a revolver. Autoloaders have been around a LONG time and it really wasn't until the early or mid 1980's when law enforcement started gravitating toward semi's. Why? Because revolvers simply worked plenty well enough for their purposes so why fix what ain't broken. But yes, a Glock 22 would be a much more suitable weapon for him now...


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Hey Agent Black, here's a self respecting lawdog :D DSP Trooper Davidson's Issue Colt 6inch Officers Model carried from 1929-1949. He's on the left with this sidearm in a crossdraw for use on a M/C. Kinda off topic but wanted to share LOL
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Ah but for the time period that was hot shit! Plus cross draw is ALWAYS super badass!!

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KentsOkay wrote:
Paladin1 wrote:

Has any movie had a good guy sporting a Glock with a 33rd mag?


Morpheus fries those freaky dreadlocked twins in the second Matrix with a high-cap Glock 18 firing magical explodey bullets... and a katana
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Ahh! Thanks for that! How could I forget!? I need to be spanked, but it will have to wait until payday.

And another thing, small town police department or not, he clears out the gun cabinet and it's ALL shotguns and revolvers!?

Now my peeps on here know I like shottys, and my best friend for years was a Security-Six, but not one semi-auto rifle/handgun at that station?

I think that's movie magic trying to paint them as small town hicks. I doubt there are many, if any police departments in the US that don't have a mag fed semi-auto rifle laying around.

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Idiosyncratic_Pat wrote:
I think the writers chose the Colt Python for the lead character to be an imposing dramatic prop that grabs attention. It excels in that aspect.


^This. It makes nice eye candy on screen. Yeah, the Colt Python is a good revolver as revolvers go, but there are many, better, options in handguns in this day and age. It is a cool show and cool shows are not always (or even, often) about what is practical.


Enlighten me sir on the better .357 revolver? Not argueing there is, but I know this weapon is a helluva lot better than "good".

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Paladin1 wrote:
KentsOkay wrote:
Paladin1 wrote:

Has any movie had a good guy sporting a Glock with a 33rd mag?


Morpheus fries those freaky dreadlocked twins in the second Matrix with a high-cap Glock 18 firing magical explodey bullets... and a katana
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Ahh! Thanks for that! How could I forget!? I need to be spanked, but it will have to wait until payday.

And another thing, small town police department or not, he clears out the gun cabinet and it's ALL shotguns and revolvers!?

Now my peeps on here know I like shottys, and my best friend for years was a Security-Six, but not one semi-auto rifle/handgun at that station?

I think that's movie magic trying to paint them as small town hicks. I doubt there are many, if any police departments in the US that don't have a mag fed semi-auto rifle laying around.


Maybe the police took all the semi-autos when they had to evac/abandon the station leaving behind all the bolt action, revolvers and shotguns.

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Soooo...Who figures that Carl (Rick's son) will be shooting some .38's out of the revolver after he learns to shoot?

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