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 Post subject: New Mossberg 590A1
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:02 pm 
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Just received my Mossberg 590A1 yesterday, this will be added to my Lee Enfield .303 No.4 Mk.1 and Lakefield-Mossberg .22 bolt gun collection. I had researched a lot online and the choice came down to either the Mossy or the Remington 870 and the Mossberg was my choice.
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It came with the Ontario Knife M9 Bayonet which is very nice addition to it:
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It is the model with the ghost ring sights:
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Took it over to a relative with some land and fired off a bunch of #5 shot (that"s all that was lying around) just to try it out and everything worked fine, I'm planning on taking it to a range and try some different types of ammo (e.g. 00 Buck) and will take some photos to post up here on ZS. The 590A1 is as rugged as expected and appears "Infantry" proof and this is one of the reasons I went for the Mossy versus the 870. Next addition will be a Norinco M305B (M-14 clone) which I have on order!


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 Post subject: Re: New Mossberg 590A1
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both 590 and 870 are great options.

i too have a 590 ( mines much older with a bead sight) run a hand full of common buck through it, find what gives ya a good pattern and stock up!

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looks awesome! gotta tell us how the norinco works out.

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 Post subject: Re: New Mossberg 590A1
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Nice shotgun. My only beef with the 590A1 is that the bayonet lug means you can't mount a Surefire light without removing the lug, but the lug is awesome. So you're down to adding a rail somewhere and adding a light that way, but I don't like that because I don't like a bunch of clutter on a shotgun.

SureFire needs to make a M590A1 model with the light off to one side and the switch on the other, so you can keep the bayo lug but still have a sleek light on the fore-end.

Oh, WAIT! Could you add a Viking Tactics light and G2 Nitrolon to the rail in front of the rear sight, without blocking it? That would be pimp!

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 Post subject: Re: New Mossberg 590A1
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Jeriah- I'm going to investigate what light system I can add to it, it would definately have to be something clamped onto the side due to the bayonet.


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Jeriah- I'm going to investigate what light system I can add to it, it would definately have to be something clamped onto the side due to the bayonet.


The problem is if the light is anywhere but on the fore-end, you need a remote switch or else the light will be constant-on. So you could mount it to the barrel and run a cord to the fore-end, or like I was saying you could try mounting it to your existing rail and then running a cord down to the fore-end. But yeah, check it out, there may be other options. (Rail fore ends, too, obviously.)

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Nice looking gun. I do not like wire as I have learned things snag in bad situations.

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'86 damn almost missed this cutoff. I remember baywatch ya then I became a lifeguard and was like wtf this isn't the same......

I honestly thought you were around 45 + :lol:

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Looks nice!

Has anyone ever tried shooting clays with ghost ring sights? Now that I have a real rifle, clays are about all I use my shotgun for anyway, but I wonder how it would compare... (I've never seen a dedicated trap/skeet gun with them in my limited experience, so that probably means something)

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AZMedic wrote:
Nice looking gun. I do not like wire as I have learned things snag in bad situations.


Agreed. But lack of light is also bad. I don't like the rail fore ends for shotguns, because they're ugly and bulky, but I can't think of another option that doesn't interfere with the bayonet or require a cable. Unless you wanted a constant-on light, which, um, I also don't like. "HERE I AM!"

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Are those factory GRS? Don't look at all like mine...

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Are those factory GRS? Don't look at all like mine...


I was thinking the same thing. The front sight also looks different than mine.

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Nice looking gun. I do not like wire as I have learned things snag in bad situations.


Agreed. But lack of light is also bad. I don't like the rail fore ends for shotguns, because they're ugly and bulky, but I can't think of another option that doesn't interfere with the bayonet or require a cable. Unless you wanted a constant-on light, which, um, I also don't like. "HERE I AM!"

Point proven but IDK if you can do an offset mount like on my AR ya light turns off when ya pump

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'86 damn almost missed this cutoff. I remember baywatch ya then I became a lifeguard and was like wtf this isn't the same......

I honestly thought you were around 45 + :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: New Mossberg 590A1
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Jeriah wrote:
Nice shotgun. My only beef with the 590A1 is that the bayonet lug means you can't mount a Surefire light without removing the lug, but the lug is awesome. So you're down to adding a rail somewhere and adding a light that way, but I don't like that because I don't like a bunch of clutter on a shotgun.


Hey Jeriah, you know they make these, right?

http://www.botachtactical.com/fabbalugdumo.html


Bayo mount lights are easy peasy.

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 Post subject: Re: New Mossberg 590A1
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Hey Jeriah, you know they make these, right?

http://www.botachtactical.com/fabbalugdumo.html


Bayo mount lights are easy peasy.


I dont think that will work because it looks like it attaches to the bayo lug AND the front sling swivel. The 590 doesnt have that. What I went with for mounting a light was this. http://www.laserlyte.com/Gun_Sight_Accessories/ADP-TRIR-140/index.html Out of the many shotgun railmounts Ive owned it is the lowest profile Ive ever seen, and lights and lasers can be mounted at 90 and 45 degree angles. Ive got a Surefire 6P LED on the right side and a quick detach sling swivel on the left. I can press the momentary on switch with my index finger or click it for constant on. Its rock solid and helluva lot cheaper than a Surefire Forend. Just my two cents.

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 Post subject: Re: New Mossberg 590A1
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Hey Jeriah, you know they make these, right?

http://www.botachtactical.com/fabbalugdumo.html


Bayo mount lights are easy peasy.


I dont think that will work because it looks like it attaches to the bayo lug AND the front sling swivel. The 590 doesnt have that. What I went with for mounting a light was this. http://www.laserlyte.com/Gun_Sight_Accessories/ADP-TRIR-140/index.html Out of the many shotgun railmounts Ive owned it is the lowest profile Ive ever seen, and lights and lasers can be mounted at 90 and 45 degree angles. Ive got a Surefire 6P LED on the right side and a quick detach sling swivel on the left. I can press the momentary on switch with my index finger or click it for constant on. Its rock solid and helluva lot cheaper than a Surefire Forend. Just my two cents.

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If you only need to mount one thing (a light), there's this one: http://www.botachtactical.com/kzm4balugmo.html

The single mount doesn't appear to need the swivel. Of course, all of these carry the drawback of not letting you light someone up AND stab them...

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 Post subject: Re: New Mossberg 590A1
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Looks nice!

Has anyone ever tried shooting clays with ghost ring sights? Now that I have a real rifle, clays are about all I use my shotgun for anyway, but I wonder how it would compare... (I've never seen a dedicated trap/skeet gun with them in my limited experience, so that probably means something)


Yep, I've done it. The ghost rings sights are more accurate IMO, but I would rather have open/bead sight for clays. But the ghost ring sights are unbeatable for slugs.

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 Post subject: Re: New Mossberg 590A1
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That's from a vendor.

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From Mossberg's site.

I've seen something similar to your sight in the Brownell's catalog from XS
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If so, it should be tritium filled and be of use in low light conditions.

Maybe it's a Canadian thing.

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http://www.surefire.com/323LMG this might work it is shorter than a normal one. i have also seen an offset adapter for thier laser to move it over the bore insted of being offset on the ar15 series rifles you might be able to adapt that to this with a light.

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http://www.surefire.com/323LMG this might work it is shorter than a normal one. i have also seen an offset adapter for thier laser to move it over the bore insted of being offset on the ar15 series rifles you might be able to adapt that to this with a light.


You win! That is EXACTLY what I have been wishing for, for YEARS.

That, and Crimson Trace grips for a P226 with a lanyard loop on 'em.

Now they both exist and I can't afford either one. Or the 590, for that matter. :oops:

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I have big plans to pick up one on those surfire railed forends and mounting a flashlight to that so I can keep my lug

plus it would give me an excuse to buy a shit ton of larue index clips

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I have big plans to pick up one on those surfire railed forends and mounting a flashlight to that so I can keep my lug

plus it would give me an excuse to buy a shit ton of larue index clips


Why would you get one of those, rather than the one 11b20 linked to (http://www.surefire.com/323LMG)? It lets you keep your lug, but it's a unitized item like SureFire's other fore-ends, no rails needed. MUCH slicker, less shit to catch on, less bulk, etc. I can't imagine why you'd rather go with a rail. (This sounds like I'm arguing, but it's really a question. I don't own either one, so there may be something I don't know.)

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