Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit

Post by ninja-elbow » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:30 pm

I could see 3-4 uses for that thing. You never know whe you'll need to board another ship. Better to have and not need than to need and not have.
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit

Post by 111t » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:59 pm

ninja-elbow wrote:I could see 3-4 uses for that thing. You never know whe you'll need to board another ship. Better to have and not need than to need and not have.
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit

Post by Kiwi Bowhunter » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:37 am

I dare you to try that heatsheets bivvy before you try it, for your own sake.
They freaking SUCK.
I'd just rather you knew how crap they were before you rely on them.

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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit

Post by Woods Walker » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:50 am

Worse case the OP can use the blanket as a heat reflector inside a lean-to and the bivy has a bunch of uses. I would keep it but agree sleeping in anything that doesn’t breathe is a risky proposition.
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit

Post by ninja-elbow » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:35 am

Testing those out once I found that reflective blankets are great reflectors but I did not like wrapping myself in them.
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit

Post by 111t » Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:42 pm

I'm aware of the limitations of space blankets. I didn't have room for a thermolite bivy. I didn't have room for a sleeping bag or a wool blanket. This is better than nothing. The scope of this kit is for emergency use when I'm not actually planning to stay out. It has to be light and compact so that I'll be carrying it.

I fully admit that is less than ideal. Condensation will be something I will have to deal with.
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit

Post by Flying Lead » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:57 am

You could use the hook for a lean-to pole and drape the space blanket over it.
I'm starting to think the hook could be a must-have item for a BOB! :mrgreen:
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit

Post by 111t » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:15 am

For the record that's a grappling hook launcher.
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by 111t » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:17 pm

So I tweeked the canteen kit with some full cup markings on the side of the canteen as well as a coat of BBQ black on the stainless cup.
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I took the doan bar tucked it into a thin plastic bag to protect it from water and adhesive then I duck taped it to the mora sheath. This way I always have fire making potential separate from the fire kit in the bag. plus more duct tape.
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omega_man wrote: Since you're rockin' the old school theme, you should put one of the old LC-2 FAKs on the other side!
There was a small FAK buried deep inside the kit. I wasn't happy with the fact that it would be hard to get to in an emergency. So I did a quick search and I found that SG has old stock surplus ones 2 for $20. (2/$18 club) I ditched the internal kit...
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/2 ... x?a=680049" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So I sent for some. I got them today. They came with the original seal unbroken. The 'living plastic' hinge cracked as soon as I opened it. Oh well. The lid still seals well and i stretched a length of tape over it to keep it shut unless I want it open. I believe they were re-packs. I removed some old stuff such as the potable aqua tabs that expired in '02 and some old chapstick that i deemed unnecessary. also some photocopied checklist and a photocopied CPR instruction sheet. I left the military bandages and added some butterfly closures some DEET and some otc meds, tweezers and nail clippers and a few salt packs from burger king.
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That's it. I'm not changing/adding one thing before some serious field testing.
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Final weight (including the mora this time) plus 1 quart of water = 12lbs. :?
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by ninja-elbow » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:54 am

Time to get it dirty, see how it is. :)
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by 111t » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:32 pm

To the dirt!
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by TacAir » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:53 pm

111t wrote:S
There was a small FAK buried deep inside the kit. I wasn't happy with the fact that it would be hard to get to in an emergency. So I did a quick search and I found that SG has old stock surplus ones 2 for $20. (2/$18 club) I ditched the internal kit...
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/2 ... x?a=680049" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So I sent for some. I got them today. They came with the original seal unbroken. The 'living plastic' hinge cracked as soon as I opened it. Oh well. The lid still seals well and i stretched a length of tape over it to keep it shut unless I want it open. I believe they were re-packs. I removed some old stuff such as the potable aqua tabs that expired in '02 and some old chapstick that i deemed unnecessary. also some photocopied checklist and a photocopied CPR instruction sheet. I left the military bandages and added some butterfly closures some DEET and some otc meds, tweezers and nail clippers and a few salt packs from burger king.
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Gunny Surplus (http://www.gunnyssurplus.com/first-aid- ... pouch.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) has the same kit at a slightly lower price point, 8 USD each.

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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by Murph » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:41 pm

Using BBQ paint on the outside of canteen cup is pretty cool looking.
Does it make it any more or less easier to clean?
Does your BOB at least have: water, basic tools, fire, food, first-aid kit, and shelter?
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by ninja-elbow » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:58 pm

BTW, marking off on your canteen the cup marks is smart. I did that to my small containers for my coffee and other things like that. I found it helped me "ration" my consumables so I wasn't wasting it. I can guess one cup and 2 cups from my GSI cup but had no idea what one tablespoon of dehydrated coffee looked like. :shock: Turns out it is not as much as I thought it was.
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by 111t » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:22 pm

Murph wrote:Using BBQ paint on the outside of canteen cup is pretty cool looking.
Does it make it any more or less easier to clean?
I don't know if it'll be easier to clean, but I'm told it will boil more efficiently. It makes sense theoretically. I'll let you know.

@tacAir... Great find!
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by Bruno_GO » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:24 am

Congrats for your kit.
And a special comment abou the jute twine.
Its an outstanding item. You could use it to make a home made lamp and its very strong too. I have one.
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Post by omega_man » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:50 pm

Lovin' the FAK! I'm totally gonna make a kit like this.
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by 111t » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:49 pm

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I was out fishing today and i remembered I had this kit in the back of the car. I decided to make some tea. I started a fire with a waxy ball and soon i had a nice bed of embers.
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FYI Soaked socks make excellent pot grabbers:
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I replaced the old ebay bag with a new woodland model.

Oh and by the way... there was some question/debate as to the function of the black paint. While I'm not sure if the water boiled any faster, the cup picked up virtually no soot from the coals.
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by Boondock » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:58 pm

Your kit's looking better and better each time I visit this thread.

I almost wish I didn't toss my butt pack from active duty--your set up reminds me of a load called "Combat Light" used by the 504th PIR.

Very nice, man.

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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by ninja-elbow » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:33 pm

Nice work. Love being able to brew up a tea or coffee in the middle of the woods. Always makes me think, "Y'know, I could do this."

I was fitna' blacken my cup and billy pot with some BBQ paint but the pine and sugar maple wood I usually end up burning did that for me :shock:
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by 111t » Sun May 26, 2013 6:43 am

I took this out turkey hunting yesterday. So far this season I'd been carrying my camelbak mule. The reason was that I knew I'd be hiking a few miles and that I'd have plenty of other stuff slung over my shoulders. I worried that the butt pack with sling would slide off of my shoulder on a fairly regular basis. Also that I'd be short on water with only one quart container. I have platty bottles in the kit, but I just assume carry a little more water so I wouldn't be forced to look for more while out hunting/ sling another thing over my shoulder.

Then last week I remembered that I had an old style pistol belt and suspenders in the basement in my big bob. I grabbed that and another one quart gi canteen and went 'full joe.'

It worked... Really well. I had the web gear holding the kit on my back, my shotgun with cheapi neoprene sling over one shoulder and my little stool slung across my body to the opposite side. Everything stayed in place. I didn't take any photos but I'll try to.
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by TacAir » Sun May 26, 2013 11:36 am

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So - it now looks something like this?
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by 111t » Sun May 26, 2013 8:35 pm

I'm going out again tomorrow. I'll have my partner shoot a quick photo. Yeah it's pretty much like that. I have the 'y' shaped suspenders. I left the water bottle an fak on the but pack and added the extra bottle to the pistol belt. I also attached the mora to one of the suspenders.
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Re: Bushcraft/Woods Kit ***Now with UPDATE

Post by 111t » Mon May 27, 2013 2:56 pm

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