Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- We have a Winner!!!

Items to keep you alive in the event you must evacuate: discussions of basic Survival Kits commonly called "Bug Out Bags" or "Go Bags"

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Troll1000
3
2%
shrimpwd
3
2%
mheimdallson
5
3%
Necrodamus
8
4%
somberbear
7
4%
leadpulaski
4
2%
Murph
11
6%
deeds
3
2%
Veritas
5
3%
ODA 226
55
28%
Cameodtj
2
1%
ironraven
6
3%
northernexposure
8
4%
Zenophon
3
2%
argyre
8
4%
Paragon
39
20%
DesertEm
2
1%
2now
2
1%
colorsafe
14
7%
smiffy
5
3%
 
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Re: Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- Deadline Extended!!!

Post by mheimdallson » Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:14 pm

I can't wait till the competition is over, so I can look over some of the other cool pouches people are creating.

I started to ("hey theres something I could add!"), and then went NOPE! wait till the end and just leave it alone. ...whats that old saying? 'The best is the enemy of the good'. I think I have a good pouch now..the best can come later..

In an seemingly unrelated project, I decided to try my hand at creating some netting from paracord inner strands.

Depending on the size, shape and strength netting can be used for fishing, frogging, and taking birds. I have seen it used for hay feeders during travel for a horse, snaring tree rats, and creating blinds and personal camouflage(still have to add greenage) to break up your shape, and even stowing gear or food up out of reach or as a game kill carry bag. probaly lots more that I can't think of just now.

Turns out that 18 feet of paracord will create about 3.5 - 4 sq feet of netting. That size also takes around 2.5-3 hours in good light, low breeze using just a lighter, knife and fingers.

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While it may not pack down as small as 18feet of paracord intact (?) it does pack fairly small.

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So my thought was that given the time it takes during the best part of a day to create the net, during which you will have to have consume rations to keep going, why not have it prepped and ready to go, and save some time and thus the calories I would consume while creating the net. Sort of a making the most of the rations I can fit in my pouch. Hmmm but then why not put in another life raft ration....hmmm...cause a net potentially get me ongoing food?....ok, I will buy that :wink:

So I have rolled it up, stuffed it into a laytex glove thumb and into the magpouch it goes....and since I had the pouch open...with a box of laytex gloves right here...2 pairs of that goes in too. Laytex gloves is what I need to administer any third party 1st aid...and probably required every time.

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I have an old stand up bottle capper that is starting to look like a good tool to use to compress more stuff into this pouch if I think of anything else.

Please end contest soon!
I don't know how much more the pouch can take! Shes gonna blow! :D

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Re: Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- Deadline Extended!!!

Post by northernxposure » Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:27 pm

Ahhhhh compromise. :?

WW - the sil-poncho is a Camp-Inn (Cerf Bro's) poncho. I've been sitting on the fence for a while about jumping to a sil-poncho, and told myself if I found one for a bargin I'd pick it up. This one set me back about 25.00$ from a discount outdoor store. Manuf says it weights 7oz, I think their scale's a little off - not much, but it's not 7oz. Doesn't come with guy points, but a sewing machine, some nylon webbing, and a bribe to my buddy's seamstress wife fixed that. For the investment, it's an outstanding value if you can sew in some guy points - so much so I'm very tempted to pick up another one.

White paracord will work, I was hoping my CB would show up so I could blend the cord into the bag a bit more though. I need to find a place that's got para in flo orange and yellow to - I want to start labeling my kit through color tabs like you and Mags have done. Hoping it'll cut down on the "damnit, dump the pack to find **** again..."

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Post by Woods Walker » Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:47 pm

northernxposure wrote:Ahhhhh compromise. :?

WW - the sil-poncho is a Camp-Inn (Cerf Bro's) poncho. I've been sitting on the fence for a while about jumping to a sil-poncho, and told myself if I found one for a bargin I'd pick it up. This one set me back about 25.00$ from a discount outdoor store. Manuf says it weights 7oz, I think their scale's a little off - not much, but it's not 7oz. Doesn't come with guy points, but a sewing machine, some nylon webbing, and a bribe to my buddy's seamstress wife fixed that. For the investment, it's an outstanding value if you can sew in some guy points - so much so I'm very tempted to pick up another one.

White paracord will work, I was hoping my CB would show up so I could blend the cord into the bag a bit more though. I need to find a place that's got para in flo orange and yellow to - I want to start labeling my kit through color tabs like you and Mags have done. Hoping it'll cut down on the "damnit, dump the pack to find **** again..."

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ACE hardware has both flo yellow and orange paracord, also sometimes EMS has flo orange. Any links to an on-line store to get that poncho? I have a few Golite ponchos but one is inside the E&E the other gets moved between my daypack and BOB. Kinda want another on the cheap when packing the 5X8 ID siltarp.
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Post by northernxposure » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:06 pm

Woods Walker wrote:
northernxposure wrote:Ahhhhh compromise. :?

WW - the sil-poncho is a Camp-Inn (Cerf Bro's) poncho. I've been sitting on the fence for a while about jumping to a sil-poncho, and told myself if I found one for a bargin I'd pick it up. This one set me back about 25.00$ from a discount outdoor store. Manuf says it weights 7oz, I think their scale's a little off - not much, but it's not 7oz. Doesn't come with guy points, but a sewing machine, some nylon webbing, and a bribe to my buddy's seamstress wife fixed that. For the investment, it's an outstanding value if you can sew in some guy points - so much so I'm very tempted to pick up another one.

White paracord will work, I was hoping my CB would show up so I could blend the cord into the bag a bit more though. I need to find a place that's got para in flo orange and yellow to - I want to start labeling my kit through color tabs like you and Mags have done. Hoping it'll cut down on the "damnit, dump the pack to find **** again..."

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ACE hardware has both flo yellow and orange paracord, also sometimes EMS has flo orange. Any links to an on-line store to get that poncho? I have a few Golite ponchos but one is inside the E&E the other gets moved between my daypack and BOB. Kinda want another on the cheap when packing the 5X8 ID siltarp.
Ahhhhh crap - forgot something else in the kit, I was going to put in a pen/RITR pad for admin gear... Oh well, don't know if it would have fit anyway...

WW - PM inbound...

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Re: Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- Deadline Extended!!!

Post by elricfate » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:13 pm

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Post by northernxposure » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:19 pm

Hmmm.. they're harder to find than I thought, everyone's out of stock.

Here's a link to an XL (same I've got), price is good - don't know about the company though..

http://www.moabsports.com/web-pid-453-C ... o-item.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ETA -

Errrr, nope, it's close to mine, but that's not mine. Mine doesn't have grommets, and it's got a pouch on the front. I'll keep looking.

This is mine, in fatigue green -

http://www.vtarmynavy.com/poncho.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by xxxDarksidexxx » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:39 pm

nice net tying skills ya got there mheimdallson! :D

there are some nice kits being posted up on here. mines just about finished being "tweaked"....now i just need some time to do a porn photo shoot! 8)

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Post by 6UNF1GHTER » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:54 pm

mheimdallson wrote:I can't wait till the competition is over, so I can look over some of the other cool pouches people are creating.

I started to ("hey theres something I could add!"), and then went NOPE! wait till the end and just leave it alone. ...whats that old saying? 'The best is the enemy of the good'. I think I have a good pouch now..the best can come later..
I think it is:
Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien.
The better is the enemy of the good.
Voltaire: 1772
mheimdallson wrote: In an seemingly unrelated project, I decided to try my hand at creating some netting from paracord inner strands.

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Ohhh! Whaa... :shock: Now that is some good shit there! You just killed my idea of packing a separate net for such things...
Even though you think it is unrelated, what you did there was amazing. Never seen anything quite like that with, what did you say... 18 feet of paracord? Damn dude... that pegs my epic idea 'o meter tonight. I want to see a tutorial on that... for sure.
Might be a good idea to post that up in the bushcraft section, if you are willing to do a write-up on it.


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Good looking kit... !
How well does that USGI cup fit into that pouch? Or does it? :P
I've got an Emdom BOMB which looks to be similar sized, but mine's too large for the contest.
On the subject of bright para cord, I bought a 5lb bag of (roughly) 30-90 Ft hanks at a surplus store here, I think I paid $20 for it... I only bought it 'cause it was the only bag with a big bright neon green roll inside. I've been keepin' my eyes peeled for some orange or red for lanyards myself. I might have some to spare, if you can't find those colors locally.

xxxDarksidexxx wrote: there are some nice kits being posted up on here. mines just about finished being "tweaked"....now i just need some time to do a porn photo shoot! 8)
Note to self, be careful if darkside asks to borrow your camera for the 'evening' porn shoot.


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Post by northernxposure » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:59 pm

6UNF1GHTER - you would not believe how close it is to get it in there, but it does fit! It's a much closer fit than the 1qt canteen cover, but it still shoe horns in. :)

Just enough room from the "bean" shape to slide the lighter on the handle side, and a couple misc items on the front.


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Post by 6UNF1GHTER » Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:09 pm

@NXP

I'm amazed it even fit, seriously. Are you trying the old ALICE or MOLLE version for the 1qt? I've got a couple single handle cups here, and been trying to fit one into a MOLLE canteen / utility pouch, and while it will fit.. it's much too tight.

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Post by xxxDarksidexxx » Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:27 pm

Ohhh! Whaa... Now that is some good shit there! You just killed my idea of packing a separate net for such things...
Even though you think it is unrelated, what you did there was amazing. Never seen anything quite like that with, what did you say... 18 feet of paracord? Damn dude... that pegs my epic idea 'o meter tonight. I want to see a tutorial on that... for sure.
Might be a good idea to post that up in the bushcraft section, if you are willing to do a write-up on it.
+1

that net needs to be reposted by itself with a write up.....like i said hes got some net building skills, now he must show us the way! :)

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Post by mheimdallson » Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:18 am

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that net needs to be reposted by itself with a write up
.

I can do that. Perhaps another video might be the way ta go? Give me bit to figure out the best way to approach it.

Thanks for letting me know who that quote was from: Voltaire! Reading some of his others is quite fun...I think my favorite is now:

"I always made one prayer to God, a very short one. Here it is: 'O Lord, make our enemies quite ridiculous!' God granted it."

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Post by Zenophon » Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:28 am

I here am new. I have read this thread but I might have missed something,

I appears that this doesn't have to be a mag pouch, just something of the appropriate size, yes?

Also, it appears that one can attach objects such as water bottle to the pouch; is this correct?

My pouch is 60 cu in with objects attached with clips, caribiners, straps etc., that would be removed and attached to belt or belt loops when deployed; is this acceptable?

Mine is not quite complete as I am putting this together with objects at hand; I must acquire H2O purification tabs and energy bars.

thanks

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Post by 6UNF1GHTER » Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:55 am

mheimdallson wrote:...
that net needs to be reposted by itself with a write up
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I can do that. Perhaps another video might be the way ta go? Give me bit to figure out the best way to approach it.

Thanks for letting me know who that quote was from: Voltaire! Reading some of his others is quite fun...I think my favorite is now:

"I always made one prayer to God, a very short one. Here it is: 'O Lord, make our enemies quite ridiculous!' God granted it."
Good good! I haven't read much of him in awhile, but it comes back just like riding a bike.
I would say, If I had a choice.. this would be my fav:

"History is the recital of facts represented as true. Fable, on the other hand, is the recital of facts represented as fiction. The history of man's ideas is nothing more than the chronicle of human error."
Voltaire

And so it goes on... like the days of our lives.
I'm fine with a video of it, but a simple breakdown of it in text would be worth it's weight in gold... perhaps combine them both?
My experience with cordage is pretty limited these days, it's been awhile since I've lashed like that. Either one would benefit the community. Let me know when you get it going, as I would like to check it out.

Zenophon wrote:I here am new. I have read this thread but I might have missed something,

I appears that this doesn't have to be a mag pouch, just something of the appropriate size, yes?

Also, it appears that one can attach objects such as water bottle to the pouch; is this correct?

My pouch is 60 cu in with objects attached with clips, caribiners, straps etc., that would be removed and attached to belt or belt loops when deployed; is this acceptable?

Mine is not quite complete as I am putting this together with objects at hand; I must acquire H2O purification tabs and energy bars.

thanks

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Zenophon:
You are right, it doesn't need to be a magazine pouch, just anything that fits within the cubes guideline. If you want to use any other container or device for the kit, it must be (or less than) 101 cubic inches. We were basing the contest on a standard sized M4 or M16 mag pouch, hence the limit. If you want to enter something, as long as it fits the volume protocol you should be alright. Especially being only 60 cubes.

Go ahead and post it up ASAP.
Oh, and being as it is your first post... please drop in and tell us a little about yourself in the introductions thread.
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here's my entry

Post by Zenophon » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:28 am

I am using items that I already have on hand.

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This is a 60 CI pouch

I am using clips to attach items to the pouch due to the lack of size. If I had to deploy the items in the pouch I would remove the items with the clips and hook them to belt loops.

3 large rubber bands
1 hat
1 watch with 12' paracord band
hand sanitizer
mini multi-tool
Buck knife with 12' paracord lanyard

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mesh bag (why? I don't know, it fit in the pouch)
tobacco product
2 tea bags
various sizes of band-aids
mirror (in case I have a zit on my nose)
2 sheets of paper (in case I need to leave a message)
latex gloves in zip loc bag
.22 lr revolver w/ 12' paracord lanyard
compass
soap
magnifying glass (to start a fire or see things too small to read or see???)
sharpie
2 silver dollars (just because)
butane lighter (to lite cigs and start fires)
alcohol (I should replace this with Cuervo)
scissors
multi blade knife
finger splints
1 large rubber band
forceps
compass
Kershaw knife
soap
dental floss
6 catsup (for my stomach to work on)
ace bandage
matches
flashing LEDs (x3) very bright
X-Acto knife
4 zip ties

match container (containing meds)
aleve
aspirin (in case I have another heart attack; I keep nitro tabs in a container attached to my keys)
antibiotics
1 rubber band

small plastic box
mini mag-lite
aaa battery
Q-tips (x4)
Swiss army knife with flash drive for documents (also has red LED and writing pen).
multi blade knife
4 alcohol prep pads
1 pain aid
1 pain reliever
1 cold tablets
1 Ibutab
2 safety pins
5 extra rounds .22 lr ammo
2 finger splints
3 salt
1 suture

Plus the clips attaching stuff to the pouch

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I found the pouch years ago (4x6x2.5).

It is amazing how much you can place into a really small pouch.

There are a number of things I left out because I don't expect to be someplace where I would need them. But, there are things I probably don't really need such as the compass because I don't expect to be someplace where I really need it that I included anyway. Due to the topography where I live it is really easy to locate oneself.

If I had need of some items it would be because one of my old cars died on the road. I would probably be better off just having a pre-made sign (big marker letters on a piece of cardboard) with the word HELP written on it.

But, in the heat in southern Nevada a hat would be useful. I always have water in the cars because they are old cars that require water from time to time.

I also always carry a Buck Alpha Hunter and a Colt .45 ACP on my belt. I also carry a spare mag for the Colt as well as a cell phone and a cigarette cell phone charger in the cars.

I would be better off with some energy bars and five hour energy drink and the hat and a couple of $20's without most of the other stuff. :)

Just as an aside, I am not really sure why I have a fully equipped BOB because I already bugged out and plan to dig in at my current location but I have one just the same.
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Re: Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- Deadline Extended!!!

Post by argyre » Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:28 am

Okay, trying to get this entry in before the original deadline, so this doesn't eat up any more of my time.
(Except that then I need to post the BoBs and the NEF Survivor handi-Rifle kit...)
Too many photos - sorry.

I hunted around to see what I had on hand for this challenge, and remembered that back when my wife still drank coffee, I had picked up a nice stainless steel french press coffee pot for camping.

I thought this would be much better than one of the cups that fits over a Nalgene bottle - could boil more than a liter at a time. And provides GREAT protection for the contents.

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And the 1 L Nalgene JUST fits - for the first few inches. But it is so snug that at that point you've got a piston compressing the remaining air. If you worked long and hard, I think you could get it to the bottom, but getting it OUT again would be phenomenally difficult. Also, this was an old Nalgene - rumor has it that the new ones are slightly wider, so they wouldn't fit at all.

I thought about finding a set of shaping rollers and adding a slight crease or ridge running down from the spout, so that the air could escape, but low enough that the french press screen would still work.
Or drilling a hole near the bottom and welding on a vent tube on the side opposite the spout.

Decided these were both too extreme - especially after I realized that I had a couple of old Sierra Designs labeled Platypus 1 L bottles lying around.

By serendipity, AKA dumb luck, I spotted a deal at CVS Pharmacy. They have pocket sized J&J first aid kits in their "Sample size" section for $1.99. These are the white boxes in the photos. These are a great deal, with quite a good selection of contents for the price. But after getting several, I discovered that these fit perfectly inside the coffee pot, and you can stack two up in the center and still be below the lid of the Maxpedition Mini-RolyPoly that I am using as the 100 cubic inch container. And they are bigger than the Altoids tin.

So one of these boxes is loaded up with FAK and sewing kit, while the other has fire, light, tools, small items. Altoids tin has fishing kit and other items that didn't make it in elsewhere.

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Maxpedition Mini-RolyPoly Dump Pouch with a small Velcro square I added to end of strap to fasten down "lid". Inelegant incompressible Platypus bottle nozzles sticking out. Princeton-Tec Pilot LED light on strap. (Includes flasher mode, and can be hand held or mounted on strap clip.)

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Pouch back showing dual drawstrings and locks, webbing clip, MOLLE webbing over belt loop and above another big Velcro patch. I discovered that the Mtechneck knife will fit securely under the MOLLE webbing.We'll see if the Becker Necker fits there when it arrives next week.

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Unpacking - Just above the Pilot LED is a stack consisting of the pot lid, knob removed, the sieve part of the French Press (bottom cover.sieve screen, upper cover and coil spring), and two coils of snare/repair wire - 10 feet of 1/32 in braided stainless steel, and 25 feet of 28 gauge galvanized steel wire.
Fishing lines are also in this stack. They show up in the photo of the fishing kit.
The stack of French Press components, snare/repair wires, fishing line all sit in the bottom of the pouch, with the coffeepot resting on top of them.
Stuffed in the coffeepot, visible from left to right is the neck knife and sheath, tarp/poncho, one of the white boxes (FAK - on top for quick access), Sawzall pruning blade (6 or 9 inch), LED headlamp. Yellow cord is there for extraction purposes, with pull loops. The lower level is pretty tightly packed.

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The two water bottles and the ziploc with the several square feet of paper towel (TP alternative) are both inside the bag but outside the coffeepot, slide between the two.

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The lower level pulled up - Altoid tin, white box (tools and fire), emergency bivy sack

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The contents of the bag and pot arrayed - right to left, top to bottom:
60 feet paracord - acts as shoulder strap, double up twice to four strands, then monkey chained, clipped to full size carabiner, which is clipped to MOLLE loop on pouch.
Stainless steel french press coffee pot
original handle for pot - I am in the process of fabricating a replacement for this handle specifically designed for this challenge. More on that later this week...
Maxpedition Mini-RolyPoly Dump Pouch - listed as 100 cu.in.
LED headlamp, uses CR2016s, same as the other two lights
2 x 1 L Platypus flexible bottles
9 x 6 foot (mostly) clear plastic tarp, for shelter and poncho use.
Three parts of French Press sieve/plunger
25 ft of 28 ga. galvanized steel wire
10 ft coil of 1/32" stainless cable
Pot lid
three sub boxes- 1 Altoid, 2 plastic, contents shown in later photos
Zip lock containing a couple of square feet of paper towels
3 x flare pen loads, two green, one red
MayDay Flare pen, spring loaded firing pin launcher
MTech neck knife with integral whistle built into sheath, and cordage
Handle knob for pot.
Shaft and theaded fitting for pot plunger
3 x 8" red zipties
2 x 12" white zipties
6" or 9" Pruning Sawzall blades
Emergency bivy sack, silver with yellow tapes (84" x 36"/213 cm x 90 cm)
Esbit emergency stove, flatpack
3 sq. feet of heavy duty aluminum foil - possible windscreen, in-fire cooking container, etc.
yellow cordage for extraction from pot

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White box - fire & tools
Standard BIC in Orange
Scout Firesteel and striker
Pair of nesting split rings (snare triggers, etc.)
Allen wrench and hardware for Sawzall blade
pair of nails with "double heads" - variety of uses
3 x Esbit fuel cubes
Button compass
Princeton-Tec Photon, keychain LED
2 x 3.25 inch diameter adhesive nylon patches
Gerber Vise mini multi-tool
Signal mirror

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White box - FAK
2 x Emergen-C electrolyte and vitamin packets
1 x Electro-Mix electrolyte packet
1 2x4 in. adhesive bandage
moleskin
2 x neosporin triple antibioticpackets
2 x Betadine antibiotic swabs
1 2 x 3 in adhesive bandage
1 large knuckle bandage
1 medium knuckle bandage
1 x J&J antibiotic ointment
1 packet sunblock cream SPF 20
2 x two tablet packets Motrin (200 mg ibuprofen)
2 2x2 in. gauze
6 x wound closure strips
6 x Katadyn MicroPur water treatment tablets
2 x PeptoBismol tablets
2 x Vicodin (5/500 APAP/hydrocodone) in vial
4 x Benadryl, in vial
2 x Immodium (or equiv.)

Sewing card with
5 feet of heavy black thread
12 feet of very heavy waxed white thread (practically cord)
2 x awl needles
1 x straight heavy duty sewing needle
1 x curved heavy duty sewing needle
1 x Mini-Awl (handle crosspiece is 2.5 inch cotter pin)
4 x safety pins (large to small assortment)
1 x paper clip

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60 feet of paracord in Monkey or Sinnet chain with full strength carabiner clipped to MOLLE loops
Assembled coffeepot in back

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Fishing Kit:
2 x nylon coated steel leaders, 12 in, 30 lb test - also useful for snares
3 x #4 snelled hooks
3 x #6 snelled hooks
3 x #8 snelled hooks
6 snap swivels, 2 each in three sizes
2 x #4 hooks
2 x #6 hooks
2 x #8 hooks
1 x Mepps French Spinner lure
1 x Macks Wedding Ring lure (pre-snelled)
3 assorted dry flies
6 larger split shot, 2 each in three sizes
1 sinker on swivel
1 plastic vial containing:
7 small split shot, and
1 long lead weight that wraps around line
1 vial containing 4 Berkeley Gulp! "salmon eggs"
(The two vial do double duty as bobbers)
pair of foam ear protection plugs, which also do double duty as bobbers
Slingshot rubber and pouch (for use with the coffee pot handle, and, in a pinch, the split shot)
10 feet of 2 inch Duct Tape, wrapped around a pair of business cards, which contain name, address and other contact info. The pair of cards also allows you to open the flat tape pack out into something more closely resembling a tape roll.
CASH - Tucked in between the two cards is a collection, one each, of $100, 20, 10, 5 bills.
50 feet of 40 lb. test fishing line
50 feet of 15 lb. test fishing line

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Pruning saw made from a 9" Milwaukee Sawzall Pruning blade, the Milwaukee replacement fitting for these saws, the coffeepot handle, and a stainless steel hose clamp. Should work as well or better with the handle I am making. Probably use a through-bolt or a second hose clamp on the final version.
The 6 in. blade is a wood/plastic blade, works okay on wood, but not as well as the pruning blade (which has a tooth pattern which is very close to the fast cutting pruning saws I've worked with before).

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Okay - a couple of items that didn't make it into the photospreads.
Short regular thickness pencil
small brass wedge pencil sharpener
Set of spare 2016 batteries for all lights

The pencil and sharpener are multipurpose - pencil shavings are excellent tinder!
And the solid brass sharpener makes a perfectly acceptable chockstone (very close to a Choinard Stopper) and a passable wedge.
I can make firestarters from cordage or paper towel or bandage coated with neosporin, in a pinch.
Or add the small package of firestarter i have lying around.

There are some ranger bands that slide onto the pot handle.

I consider the button compass more of a back-up, and will include the pin-on AirGuide compass and P-38 (see photo below). I'm considering swapping out something to squeeze in the cheesy LED wand in the photo - pluses are that it runs for 200 hr, has TWO lights (front, back/wand) and a flasher mode, and can be tied to a string and whirled for signaling.

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And I REALLY need to figure out how to fit the tiny vacuum packed brick of French Roast in there somehow.

Other possible swaps include losing the flat Esbit and fuel and using one of the little folding German copper stoves with 12 fuel tabs stashed inside, and squeezing the fishing kit where the Esbit fuel was stashed.

The bulkiest items were the Emergency bivy and the tarp/poncho. Considering swapping in the Heatsheet and some UL tarp/poncho, but feeling a might thrifty these days...

And while none of my firearms would fit this kit, the flare pen is a barely viable defensive weapon.
Mag Pouch Kit Contest Entry - French Press based: http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 0#p1275085
NEF/H&R Survivor Handi-Rifle survival kit: http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 14&t=72375

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Post by detwolfsdad » Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:33 pm

Ok I can't find the date that the deadline is extended to????
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Re: Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- Only a Few Days Left!!!

Post by lonewolf15002000 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:12 pm

elkhills wrote:2.To allow everyone a little extra time to complete and get thier kits posted up, (but mostly so I won't have to deal with this on vacation :D ) the Judges have decided to extend the deadline for entry by one week to March 8th. The Top 20 will then be listed in the Poll for voting on March 12th, and the Winner will be officially announced March 26th.
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Re: Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- Only a Few Days Left!!!

Post by detwolfsdad » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:21 pm

lonewolf15002000 wrote:
elkhills wrote:2.To allow everyone a little extra time to complete and get thier kits posted up, (but mostly so I won't have to deal with this on vacation :D ) the Judges have decided to extend the deadline for entry by one week to March 8th. The Top 20 will then be listed in the Poll for voting on March 12th, and the Winner will be officially announced March 26th.

Thank you!!
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Re: Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- Deadline Extended!!!

Post by 6UNF1GHTER » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:56 am

BTT

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Re: Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- Deadline Extended!!!

Post by argyre » Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:05 am

Yeah, as a newbie, I expected all kinds of poking and comments on my entry.
My new Becker Necker arrived, so now I have to repack the damned thing and see if I can make it fit again.
The reason I'm using subcontainers is so that you can relocate most of the contents to your pockets, clip the empty pot to your belt or the shoulder sling, and stick the Platypus bottles in the Mini-Rolypoly pouch.

Maybe no one read the damned thing because it was too long.
Mag Pouch Kit Contest Entry - French Press based: http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 0#p1275085
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Re: Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- Deadline Extended!!!

Post by leadpulaski » Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:48 am

argyr, I am impressed. I think yours maybe my favorite so far. Maybe its the coffee, I have a soft spot for coffee.

May I suggest you try using the papertowels as tp, if you havnt already. I'm. Just cautious whem it comes to wiping that's all.

Kudos! Good job!

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Re: Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- Deadline Extended!!!

Post by argyre » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:24 am

Why, thanks, Leadpulaski!

(And is that Lead Pulaski , as in "Lead from the front!", or as in "lead balloon"?)

I can actually take or leave coffee. Not generally a hot fluids fan.

As for PT versus TP... I've used paper towels many a time for that purpose (was a bachelor for many years) and actually kind of prefer it, as sturdier, and I find that you tend to need to use less, and it is more multi-purpose.

I'm trying to figure out what I can effectively cut out, versus what I might need to add.
The three lights is probably overkill. Since the contest is for a kit for one "for up to 72 hr. in varied wilderness environments and conditions" there was no major call for a snazzy "tactical light". So the lighting needs were potentially walking in the dark, signaling, which I'll admit, the little LEDs are so-so at, and general purpose lighting.
The headlamp was only added for it's usefulness for night hiking. Takes up more room than I'd like. I suspect that Princeton Tec Pilot with it's strap clip would work fine as a headlamp, if I added a simple elastic strap of approximately head diameter.
I feel odd NOT having matches in there, and may add at least some.

WoodsWalker may get on my case about a COMPLETE absence of bug stuff.
And it is NOT really because my AO is California. My childhood and teen years were spent fishing and hunting and backpacking in Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New Jersey, and New Brunswick, Canada. I've through hiked the Long Trail. I know from bugs.

But much to the distress of my father, brother, and friends, I was always the weird guy in the group who remained unbit, while everyone else was getting big chunks taken out of their flesh by deer flies, or bled dry by mosquitoes.
Which is, frankly, a neat trick when flyfishing in Maine.
Or relatively unbit, by comparison to those around me. So I tend to never use bug stuff.

Any other gaps or issues anyone sees?
Space constraints make the FAK kind of sad, just because any significant bandage has volume. I may slide a MaxiPad or a couple of tampons in there, for their combination of compressed size versus absorbency.

And I still have to fab the new coffeepot/saw handle.

With the big silver bivvy sack, I am tempted to drop the "tarp", but because it is clear, feel that it is multi-purpose enough to keep (capturing plant respiration, solar still, etc.) Doesn't provide shade, but the bivvy can provide some.
A nice UL tarp poncho would be worth it, but I'd have to add at least one decent clear trash bag.

Space limits say something has to give.
Mag Pouch Kit Contest Entry - French Press based: http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 0#p1275085
NEF/H&R Survivor Handi-Rifle survival kit: http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 14&t=72375

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Re: Mag Pouch Survival Kit Contest- Deadline Extended!!!

Post by Woods Walker » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:35 pm

argyre wrote: Maybe no one read the damned thing because it was too long.
Not true. I liked the fishing kit and the two platy type bags are nice. :D
argyre wrote:WoodsWalker may get on my case about a COMPLETE absence of bug stuff.
And it is NOT really because my AO is California. My childhood and teen years were spent fishing and hunting and backpacking in Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New Jersey, and New Brunswick, Canada. I've through hiked the Long Trail. I know from bugs.
No problem here as it's your kit.
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