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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby zeropresence » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:40 am

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zeropresence wrote:I was approached by a production company about appearing on this 2nd gen of the show. I quickly said no thanks. I don't think they are trying to give preppers a bad rap, rather I think the only people willing to appear on national tv aren't sometimes the most solid and well rounded people.

Just finished watching "Bullets, Lots of Bullets".

1. First texas couple shot .22LR at a steel storage container as a "test" to their home? This hurts my head for many reasons. They had a lot of supplies, but that one part killed it for me.

2. The second Christopher guy in LA was lacking for many reasons including his BOB. You don't need more of my opinion on this.

3. The girl... umm

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Wow realy because Chris Nyerges has tought like 30k people survival skills has written prolificly for himself and jim benson and is actualy a pretty smart guy I met him a time or two in california and i think a lot of people have respect for Nyerges.


His skills would be very important however the show wasn't about the valve of his skill set, it was about his overall survival plan and preps... Which were VERY much lacking in LA, he would get eaten alive. He had a full bottle of salad dressing in his BOB.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby BigDaddyTX » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:05 am

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landser wrote:
zeropresence wrote:I was approached by a production company about appearing on this 2nd gen of the show. I quickly said no thanks. I don't think they are trying to give preppers a bad rap, rather I think the only people willing to appear on national tv aren't sometimes the most solid and well rounded people.

Just finished watching "Bullets, Lots of Bullets".

2. The second Christopher guy in LA was lacking for many reasons including his BOB. You don't need more of my opinion on this.

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Wow realy because Chris Nyerges has tought like 30k people survival skills has written prolificly for himself and jim benson and is actualy a pretty smart guy I met him a time or two in california and i think a lot of people have respect for Nyerges.


His skills would be very important however the show wasn't about the valve of his skill set, it was about his overall survival plan and preps... Which were VERY much lacking in LA, he would get eaten alive. He had a full bottle of salad dressing in his BOB.

He's definitely a known name in the survival community. I think he just wanted to be on TV, because while his concern was the only real legitimate concern on the episode, he's just shown as a little nutty. There's no way he doesn't own a gun and have a real bug out bag/plan. That's just his foraging bag or something, who the hell brings 6 knives? He just made that up the whole scenario to be on TV IMO.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby zeropresence » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:12 am

BigDaddyTX wrote:
zeropresence wrote:
landser wrote:
zeropresence wrote:I was approached by a production company about appearing on this 2nd gen of the show. I quickly said no thanks. I don't think they are trying to give preppers a bad rap, rather I think the only people willing to appear on national tv aren't sometimes the most solid and well rounded people.

Just finished watching "Bullets, Lots of Bullets".

1. First texas couple shot .22LR at a steel storage container as a "test" to their home? This hurts my head for many reasons. They had a lot of supplies, but that one part killed it for me.

2. The second Christopher guy in LA was lacking for many reasons including his BOB. You don't need more of my opinion on this.

3. The girl... umm

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Wow realy because Chris Nyerges has tought like 30k people survival skills has written prolificly for himself and jim benson and is actualy a pretty smart guy I met him a time or two in california and i think a lot of people have respect for Nyerges.


His skills would be very important however the show wasn't about the valve of his skill set, it was about his overall survival plan and preps... Which were VERY much lacking in LA, he would get eaten alive. He had a full bottle of salad dressing in his BOB.

He's definitely a known name in the survival community. I think he just wanted to be on TV, because while his concern was the only real legitimate concern on the episode, he's just shown as a little nutty. There's no way he doesn't own a gun and have a real bug out plan. He just made that up the whole scenario to be on TV IMO.


I agree his concern was the only legitimate one. However drinking from the LA river?!? I'm not saying you need an expensive BOB with all the latest 1'oz REI $100 tools, but his after pausing the TV was very poor for his area. I'm from CA and you have to revised your BOB needs to be very protection heavy. You aren't going to see a lot of friendly trading posts while bugging out of LA that accept arrow heads and straw pennies. :lol: Why do a tv show and look insane? I match your glock and raise you a salad!
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby zeropresence » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:19 am

PS... Lets talk more about if a .22 will go through 5/8'' steel at 100rds and wearing shorty shorts during a bug out. I'm very interesting in both, so I'm glad I watched this show. I learned a lot!
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby HKTackDriver » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:03 am

zeropresence wrote:PS... Lets talk more about if a .22 will go through 5/8'' steel at 100rds and wearing shorty shorts during a bug out. I'm very interesting in both, so I'm glad I watched this show. I learned a lot!


It's amazing how the show is staying as clean as ZS! No mention of heading out and "obtaining" supplies or a long term "uh oh, our preps weren't sufficient" plan.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby SavageArcher » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:32 am

I prefer the minimalist approach myself so I can relate to Nyerges. I'd rather look like a poor, eccentric, almost homeless person while moving around in an urban setting than all tricked out like shorty shorts in Houston. There are some real interesting ideas presented in this show. I like it and I tend to take things with a grain of salt anyway.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby zeropresence » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:41 pm

HKTackDriver wrote:
zeropresence wrote:PS... Lets talk more about if a .22 will go through 5/8'' steel at 100rds and wearing shorty shorts during a bug out. I'm very interesting in both, so I'm glad I watched this show. I learned a lot!


It's amazing how the show is staying as clean as ZS! No mention of heading out and "obtaining" supplies or a long term "uh oh, our preps weren't sufficient" plan.


Amen. I'd like to think everyone will develop into a wonderfully hormonic trading socially, but well... I'm not delusional. Better stop before I get censored.

SavageArcher wrote:I prefer the minimalist approach myself so I can relate to Nyerges. I'd rather look like a poor, eccentric, almost homeless person while moving around in an urban setting than all tricked out like shorty shorts in Houston. There are some real interesting ideas presented in this show. I like it and I tend to take things with a grain of salt anyway.


Agreed. Me too, but either way without some protection and very creative routes out of LA you are f*cked. Let me changed.. I think you are f*cked no matter what, unless you have a cheat code for a tank or helicopter.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby CaptBrainFreeze » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:24 pm

Ok....gonna give a heads up. I dunno if it is in this new episode tomorrow night or not.....But somewhere in the future it will probably be shown. One of the preppers really loves his toys, military, guns etc....his luck? He blew his thumb off during filming....

I have a hard time believing they won't show this LOL.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby zeropresence » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:52 pm

CaptBrainFreeze wrote:Ok....gonna give a heads up. I dunno if it is in this new episode tomorrow night or not.....But somewhere in the future it will probably be shown. One of the preppers really loves his toys, military, guns etc....his luck? He blew his thumb off during filming....

I have a hard time believing they won't show this LOL.


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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby ineffableone » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:57 pm

CaptBrainFreeze wrote:Ok....gonna give a heads up. I dunno if it is in this new episode tomorrow night or not.....But somewhere in the future it will probably be shown. One of the preppers really loves his toys, military, guns etc....his luck? He blew his thumb off during filming....

I have a hard time believing they won't show this LOL.


Oh yes, this is the inventor of the Crovel who blows his thumb off (actually just looses part of thumb) from a weapon malfunction.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby CaptBrainFreeze » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:59 pm

LOL I was just posting that. Meh, he supports 400 American jobs, I can forgive!
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby ineffableone » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:12 pm

CaptBrainFreeze wrote:LOL I was just posting that. Meh, he supports 400 American jobs, I can forgive!


I am not a fan of the Crovel or any folding shovel, but I do think it is better than the typical folding shovel designs. I think Cold Steel got it right when they made their survival shovel with out the folding. If the Crovel didn't have the folding section for the shovel I would like the idea much better I think. That one thing is just a weak link in every folding shovel design. Though Tim did beef up the mechanism to make it much more robust.

And yes I do support the US made US jobs for the Crovel. Good for Tim in being a creator of jobs in the US and making a product in the US.

As for his accident, well these things happen. Even the safest person can have a weapons malfunction. I don't have all the details of what happened but sometimes you just can't avoid these things. It could have been a defect in the weapon and not his fault. I don't know. Guess we will see. I have seen clips of the accident, but I am sure they will air some of it at least on the show.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby gelgoog » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:57 am

Oh shit arfcom just got burned.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1286828_.html&page=5&anc=32401838#i32401838

Typical arfcom fashion, they start making incredibly rude statements about Megan from doomsday preppers and look who showed up to poop on their thread :lol:
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby ineffableone » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:32 am

gelgoog wrote:Oh shit arfcom just got burned.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1286828_.html&page=5&anc=32401838#i32401838

Typical arfcom fashion, they start making incredibly rude statements about Megan from doomsday preppers and look who showed up to poop on their thread :lol:


LOL, good job Megan! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes people should watch what they say about her online, she has the tendency to pop up on forum threads talking about her. I have seen multiple forum threads where she suddenly pops on to correct them. One of the good things about her being younger, she is internet savy and is using her skills online to find and punish those who want to pick on her. She also is setting the record straight about the editing done by Nat Geo, them taking the shooting cat out of context then offering her $1000 to shoot her kitty, them making her change the actual reason for her prepping, and so much more.

It is cool to hear her give the insider POV of what the Nat Geo people are doing with the prepper community.

Southernprepper1, one of the prep consultants who do the final rating just posted a video about why he and engineer775 are doing the show. To help add as much positive light on the show as they can. They have no creative control but do what they can to keep it as real as possible. He mentioned they agreed to work with the show to help get that message out to the audence they can't get on youtube, the ones who aren't already preppers, the ones who know nothing yet.

It is cool to see the preppers fighting back against the portrayal Nat Geo is trying to give.

So way to go Megan, and the rest of the Doomsday Preppers.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby Mannlicher » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:00 am

sad to see the pejorative name of the series. "Doomsday Preppers" just screams..............."I AM A NUTTER!!!"

one of my close friends was approached last fall to be featured in the show. He declined. Way too many negatives, no positives.

Operational security sacrificed for 15 min of fame is not a good trade off. If you are serious about your preparations, you just don't share all the intimate details with the world.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby survivaljoe » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:16 am

Mannlicher wrote:Operational security sacrificed for 15 min of fame is not a good trade off. If you are serious about your preparations, you just don't share all the intimate details with the world.


Amen. No sympathy for anyone who got edited the wrong way or got their guns confiscated for joking about suicide, or blew off a part of their body playing movie star.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby CipherNameRaVeN » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:20 am

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Mannlicher wrote:Operational security sacrificed for 15 min of fame is not a good trade off. If you are serious about your preparations, you just don't share all the intimate details with the world.


Amen. No sympathy for anyone who got edited the wrong way or got their guns confiscated for joking about suicide, or blew off a part of their body playing movie star.

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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby zeropresence » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:46 pm

ineffableone wrote:
gelgoog wrote:Oh shit arfcom just got burned.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1286828_.html&page=5&anc=32401838#i32401838

Typical arfcom fashion, they start making incredibly rude statements about Megan from doomsday preppers and look who showed up to poop on their thread :lol:


LOL, good job Megan! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes people should watch what they say about her online, she has the tendency to pop up on forum threads talking about her. I have seen multiple forum threads where she suddenly pops on to correct them. One of the good things about her being younger, she is internet savy and is using her skills online to find and punish those who want to pick on her. She also is setting the record straight about the editing done by Nat Geo, them taking the shooting cat out of context then offering her $1000 to shoot her kitty, them making her change the actual reason for her prepping, and so much more.

It is cool to hear her give the insider POV of what the Nat Geo people are doing with the prepper community.

Southernprepper1, one of the prep consultants who do the final rating just posted a video about why he and engineer775 are doing the show. To help add as much positive light on the show as they can. They have no creative control but do what they can to keep it as real as possible. He mentioned they agreed to work with the show to help get that message out to the audence they can't get on youtube, the ones who aren't already preppers, the ones who know nothing yet.

It is cool to see the preppers fighting back against the portrayal Nat Geo is trying to give.

So way to go Megan, and the rest of the Doomsday Preppers.


Am I missing something? Why would I care if the person I am commenting about is on the thread? I never said anything about her body or anything rude as per ZS's UN/PC rules and because the show wasn't about that and I'm not 12. I just skipped it because it wasn't really even worth commenting on. As I said before I was asked to be on this show, so I have no grace for people with limited knowledge and structure who put themselves on national tv for the rest of to talk about on forums. Did she think arfcom wouldn't insult her? When I was first starting out prepping 9 years ago and asking a lot of dumb questions I wouldn't have been on a TV show because I would have looked green and mislead people. Even now I would never do such a thing because well... mostly going on national tv with your preps on plans is about as good idea as shooting your thumb off... there are people in the community that have much more knowledge and experience than I do. There are a lot of people who have helped me that I look up to as a balanced and well rounded prepper (not crazy and broke) and not one would do a tv show. If you are going to tell me how every little bit of preparedness exposure to the public is a good idea, save it as I've heard it.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby zeropresence » Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:00 pm

PS. These are two of the e-mails going around the community for the casting call. It was originally sent to Bernie @ apartmentprepper.com and forwarded along. Then I got a couple e-mails directly. I contacted them just for the hell of it to get the full scoop. But just wanted to show you what step 1 would have been to being on the show... and how they "sold" it.

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Subject: Preppers

Hello,
My name is Brian and I work for a television production company based in NYC. I am currently casting for a new series airing for a National Cable Network and I was hoping I would be able to talk to you about participating.

I am looking for “Preppers.” People who make a conscious effort to prepare for anything and everything the world might throw their way. How are they preparing themselves, and for what?

How do you prepare an apartment for a major catastrophe? Self Defense? Long term survivability?

Our pilot aired a few weeks ago and did very well so we are now currently casting for this season. At your earliest convenience, I would very much appreciate the opportunity to tell you more about the show and discuss our Casting Call Sheet and what we are hoping to accomplish. I was also hoping you might be able to provide some insight.

Best,
Brian

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Hello,

I'm currently casting for a pilot television show about preppers/survivalists. I think you may be a great resource for finding well prepared people, who would be open to appearing on camera. I'm wondering if you would be willing to post this info on your blog or website, or just pass this info along to anyone you think would be interested.

The gist:
It’s a 30 minute show, and we will feature two stories. We are mostly interested in seeing what the person has prepared or prepped, and right now we’re specifically looking for someone with a stocked bunker or extensive prep. The idea is to meet the person and see what they've prepared, then bring in a survivalist expert to evaluate how long you could actually live for if a catastrophe were to happen.

The purpose of the show is not to exploit beliefs, we actually want to cast people who the viewers will be able to relate to. We also want to feature someone who has prepped extensively, either in the home, or in a bunker. We really want something visually stunning.

This has been extremely hard to cast because of the secretive nature of the people who are preparing--which is completely understandable. I am contacting you because I think it's important to get the word out about survivalists/preppers--that they aren't all crazy people, that most of them are smart, well-informed people who we could take a lesson from. And I am hoping you will be able to pass this info along if you know someone who may be interested in participating.

We can provide full anonymity, and compensation is $1000 for the person who is chosen.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you for your time!

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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby ineffableone » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:49 pm

zeropresence wrote:
ineffableone wrote:
gelgoog wrote:Oh shit arfcom just got burned.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1286828_.html&page=5&anc=32401838#i32401838

Typical arfcom fashion, they start making incredibly rude statements about Megan from doomsday preppers and look who showed up to poop on their thread :lol:


LOL, good job Megan! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes people should watch what they say about her online, she has the tendency to pop up on forum threads talking about her. I have seen multiple forum threads where she suddenly pops on to correct them. One of the good things about her being younger, she is internet savy and is using her skills online to find and punish those who want to pick on her. She also is setting the record straight about the editing done by Nat Geo, them taking the shooting cat out of context then offering her $1000 to shoot her kitty, them making her change the actual reason for her prepping, and so much more.

It is cool to hear her give the insider POV of what the Nat Geo people are doing with the prepper community.

Southernprepper1, one of the prep consultants who do the final rating just posted a video about why he and engineer775 are doing the show. To help add as much positive light on the show as they can. They have no creative control but do what they can to keep it as real as possible. He mentioned they agreed to work with the show to help get that message out to the audence they can't get on youtube, the ones who aren't already preppers, the ones who know nothing yet.

It is cool to see the preppers fighting back against the portrayal Nat Geo is trying to give.

So way to go Megan, and the rest of the Doomsday Preppers.


Am I missing something? Why would I care if the person I am commenting about is on the thread? I never said anything about her body or anything rude as per ZS's UN/PC rules and because the show wasn't about that and I'm not 12. I just skipped it because it wasn't really even worth commenting on. As I said before I was asked to be on this show, so I have no grace for people with limited knowledge and structure who put themselves on national tv for the rest of to talk about on forums. Did she think arfcom wouldn't insult her? When I was first starting out prepping 9 years ago and asking a lot of dumb questions I wouldn't have been on a TV show because I would have looked green and mislead people. Even now I would never do such a thing because well... mostly going on national tv with your preps on plans is about as good idea as shooting your thumb off... there are people in the community that have much more knowledge and experience than I do. There are a lot of people who have helped me that I look up to as a balanced and well rounded prepper (not crazy and broke) and not one would do a tv show. If you are going to tell me how every little bit of preparedness exposure to the public is a good idea, save it as I've heard it.


Seems you are missing things.

I didn't say you would care about her posting on a thread about her. That was in reference to a thread on another forum that started as "why no one had photoshopped her yet" and quickly went into who would and wouldn't have sex with her along with a bunch of rude comments about her weight etc. Good for her for stepping in and defending herself there. And yes it sure as hell interrupted their immature attempts to make fun of her to have to interact with her there.

As for her limited knowledge, yes she is not the most knowledgeable, as your own casting email points out they were looking for preppers who people could relate to. Beginning preppers who don't have all the knowledge and all the preps would be much more relateable to the general populous than the prepper who is a know it all and has been prepping for 20 years. Also Megan's boyfriend backed out of doing the show at the last minute. He supossably is much more knowledgeable about many of the topic, such as firearms. She mentions how she would not have put her foot in her mouth so much if he had been there to answer more questions and share his knowledge.

So you declined doing the show, good for you. You don't have to worry about exposing your preps to the world. You don't have to deal with arm chair preppers picking apart everything you said and teasing you for statements taken out of context. That is your choice that you didn't want to be on the show. I can understand why you wouldn't want to be.

But for those who are doing the show, I do give props for putting themselves out there, the spot light is a cruel place. And no every bit of exposure is not good. But more exposure for the prepper community can be good. Especially showing these are not just all armed run and gunners. Showing people who interact with their communities and are just like their neighbours is a good thing. I think a lot of people perceive preppers like the first family on this new season in the shipping container fortress. They think them reclusive hermits with lots of guns and preparing for armed battles. So far Doomsday preppers has shown not only is there that kind of prepper, but many other different types, a couple with out guns at all. This makes preppers seem a lot less scary to the general public. It makes preppers more able to dialogue with the average person.

Your entitled to your opinion of this, and I respect that. You turned down the show, and I respect that. I disagree though that the show is completely portraying the prepper community badly. I think there is plenty of good coming out of the show, and yes some bad. I think though the bad is minimal compared to how it could be. I think Southernprepper1 and Engineer775 are doing good to stay with the show and help steer it as much as they can into a positive spin. It is easy to sit and pick apart the different preppers and the stupid things they might say or do from the limited footage Nat Geo decided to show us. I personally look to what the preppers did right instead of concentrating on what they did that is embarrassing.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby zeropresence » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:08 pm

ineffableone wrote:
zeropresence wrote:
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gelgoog wrote:Oh shit arfcom just got burned.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1286828_.html&page=5&anc=32401838#i32401838

Typical arfcom fashion, they start making incredibly rude statements about Megan from doomsday preppers and look who showed up to poop on their thread :lol:


LOL, good job Megan! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes people should watch what they say about her online, she has the tendency to pop up on forum threads talking about her. I have seen multiple forum threads where she suddenly pops on to correct them. One of the good things about her being younger, she is internet savy and is using her skills online to find and punish those who want to pick on her. She also is setting the record straight about the editing done by Nat Geo, them taking the shooting cat out of context then offering her $1000 to shoot her kitty, them making her change the actual reason for her prepping, and so much more.

It is cool to hear her give the insider POV of what the Nat Geo people are doing with the prepper community.

Southernprepper1, one of the prep consultants who do the final rating just posted a video about why he and engineer775 are doing the show. To help add as much positive light on the show as they can. They have no creative control but do what they can to keep it as real as possible. He mentioned they agreed to work with the show to help get that message out to the audence they can't get on youtube, the ones who aren't already preppers, the ones who know nothing yet.

It is cool to see the preppers fighting back against the portrayal Nat Geo is trying to give.

So way to go Megan, and the rest of the Doomsday Preppers.


Am I missing something? Why would I care if the person I am commenting about is on the thread? I never said anything about her body or anything rude as per ZS's UN/PC rules and because the show wasn't about that and I'm not 12. I just skipped it because it wasn't really even worth commenting on. As I said before I was asked to be on this show, so I have no grace for people with limited knowledge and structure who put themselves on national tv for the rest of to talk about on forums. Did she think arfcom wouldn't insult her? When I was first starting out prepping 9 years ago and asking a lot of dumb questions I wouldn't have been on a TV show because I would have looked green and mislead people. Even now I would never do such a thing because well... mostly going on national tv with your preps on plans is about as good idea as shooting your thumb off... there are people in the community that have much more knowledge and experience than I do. There are a lot of people who have helped me that I look up to as a balanced and well rounded prepper (not crazy and broke) and not one would do a tv show. If you are going to tell me how every little bit of preparedness exposure to the public is a good idea, save it as I've heard it.


Seems you are missing things.

I didn't say you would care about her posting on a thread about her. That was in reference to a thread on another forum that started as "why no one had photoshopped her yet" and quickly went into who would and wouldn't have sex with her along with a bunch of rude comments about her weight etc. Good for her for stepping in and defending herself there. And yes it sure as hell interrupted their immature attempts to make fun of her to have to interact with her there.

As for her limited knowledge, yes she is not the most knowledgeable, as your own casting email points out they were looking for preppers who people could relate to. Beginning preppers who don't have all the knowledge and all the preps would be much more relateable to the general populous than the prepper who is a know it all and has been prepping for 20 years. Also Megan's boyfriend backed out of doing the show at the last minute. He supossably is much more knowledgeable about many of the topic, such as firearms. She mentions how she would not have put her foot in her mouth so much if he had been there to answer more questions and share his knowledge.

So you declined doing the show, good for you. You don't have to worry about exposing your preps to the world. You don't have to deal with arm chair preppers picking apart everything you said and teasing you for statements taken out of context. That is your choice that you didn't want to be on the show. I can understand why you wouldn't want to be.

But for those who are doing the show, I do give props for putting themselves out there, the spot light is a cruel place. And no every bit of exposure is not good. But more exposure for the prepper community can be good. Especially showing these are not just all armed run and gunners. Showing people who interact with their communities and are just like their neighbours is a good thing. I think a lot of people perceive preppers like the first family on this new season in the shipping container fortress. They think them reclusive hermits with lots of guns and preparing for armed battles. So far Doomsday preppers has shown not only is there that kind of prepper, but many other different types, a couple with out guns at all. This makes preppers seem a lot less scary to the general public. It makes preppers more able to dialogue with the average person.

Your entitled to your opinion of this, and I respect that. You turned down the show, and I respect that. I disagree though that the show is completely portraying the prepper community badly. I think there is plenty of good coming out of the show, and yes some bad. I think though the bad is minimal compared to how it could be. I think Southernprepper1 and Engineer775 are doing good to stay with the show and help steer it as much as they can into a positive spin. It is easy to sit and pick apart the different preppers and the stupid things they might say or do from the limited footage Nat Geo decided to show us. I personally look to what the preppers did right instead of concentrating on what they did that is embarrassing.


You really think anyone on that show could seem "less crazy" to the general public? I'm in a related business myself and I know groups of people getting together to watch this show and laugh at how insane people are. It's the new Horders (same production company) or the new Gold Rush, etc. People watch it to be entertained. They aren't going to cast a super balanced normal guy, because it's not entertaining. They want 2012 people who may or may not have a mental illness. I don't think the show is putting a negative spin on it, I think the people are taking care of that themselves. No one can argue this lifestyle/hobby whatever you think it is attracts a very above average level of crazy people. With that said, I am grabbing my popcorn to watch the next episode in which based on the preview has morbidly obese preppers. I think this will make Megan seem like Jack Bauer.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby MADic » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:35 pm

One of the producers of the show stated during a radio interview that National Geographic is 51% entertainment and 49% education. Doomsday Preppers does have a lot of educational information in it and the people who participated really opened up about the kinds of skills they have acquired and why they believe they should be prepared. I have only seen the first episode, but the California guy and Megan both came off sounding fairly intelligent. However the entertainment part of it is also very visible, and there were obviously some clever edits that made these guys look crazier than they actually probably are. Since it is an entertainment program, NatGeo of course wants to look for people who have an outrageous amount of preps and believe in loony theories - like the first family - to put on the show. It is entertaining to laugh at people who we think are crazy. That said, no matter how sane they make everybody look there will always, no matter what, be people who believe prepping is crazy and a waste of time. They could have presented the most diverse group of intelligent and rational people and there would still be people grabbing popcorn to laugh at the preppers on the show.

I'm not really sure where I am going with this, other than the fact that ultimately NatGeo and Doomsday Preppers is entertainment television, regardless of educational the program may be. There will always be an element of entertaining loonyness in these kinds of shows to balance out the educational rationality. You should expect nothing less and nothing more.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby zeropresence » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:52 pm

MADic wrote:One of the producers of the show stated during a radio interview that National Geographic is 51% entertainment and 49% education. Doomsday Preppers does have a lot of educational information in it and the people who participated really opened up about the kinds of skills they have acquired and why they believe they should be prepared. I have only seen the first episode, but the California guy and Megan both came off sounding fairly intelligent. However the entertainment part of it is also very visible, and there were obviously some clever edits that made these guys look crazier than they actually probably are. Since it is an entertainment program, NatGeo of course wants to look for people who have an outrageous amount of preps and believe in loony theories - like the first family - to put on the show. It is entertaining to laugh at people who we think are crazy. That said, no matter how sane they make everybody look there will always, no matter what, be people who believe prepping is crazy and a waste of time. They could have presented the most diverse group of intelligent and rational people and there would still be people grabbing popcorn to laugh at the preppers on the show.

I'm not really sure where I am going with this, other than the fact that ultimately NatGeo and Doomsday Preppers is entertainment television, regardless of educational the program may be. There will always be an element of entertaining loonyness in these kinds of shows to balance out the educational rationality. You should expect nothing less and nothing more.


Agreed, but 49% education? Not sure what I was suppose to learn it doesn't really go into any detail. Couple of questions... Megan doesn't like the "look" of her backpacking BOB so she goes with a military style one to seem less like a target?!? Also does she keep that truck parked there at all times just sitting there for her to walk to? She also didn't have enough supplies to last in her apartment for the length she said. The only thing I liked about her part was fitness. A hugely important part of prepping that is a very sensitive subject that people just want to ignore. Where are some of these people going to bug out to? 1 mile and their heart is going to explode. They maintain everything else but their own bodies? Never understand that.

P.S. I did enjoy Southernprepper1 and Engineer775's part in the 1st special. It didn't seem crazy and I enjoyed it. I'm talking just about the new series in this thread.
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Re: Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

Postby HKTackDriver » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:08 pm

SavageArcher wrote:I prefer the minimalist approach myself so I can relate to Nyerges. I'd rather look like a poor, eccentric, almost homeless person while moving around in an urban setting than all tricked out like shorty shorts in Houston. There are some real interesting ideas presented in this show. I like it and I tend to take things with a grain of salt anyway.


Those people are preyed upon NOW, what makes you think you'll be better off once people are desperate? You'll be a target no matter what. Prep to defend yourself. I'd rather stalk the prey with no defenses than the guy carrying an AR15 or shotgun. At worst, he has a pistol. At best, a knife.
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