"Walking Dead" Cable Series

[Gun_Nut_2k1]

If the virus is in us all will Lori's baby be DOA or even cause her to be Zombiefied?

[SeerSavant]

If the virus is in us all will Lori's baby be DOA or even cause her to be Zombiefied?

I don't think so... from the bodies without a scratch, to the evidence that other CDC counterparts had fallen off one by one...

I kinda think it works like this, Jenner told Rick, that the disease/vector/virus/voodoo/prions where already in everyone... In fact, it probably was an airborne disease to begin with, or it was an acute spread...
So when you die, the voodooprionviralwhatever becomes active... And you return as a zombie, once the brain activity drops to a low enough level for it to take over. As in the video of the parts of the brain reanimating at the CDC.

The idea that the bites or scratches were causing a transmission is misleading... But if a rotting corpse bites you, can you imagine the insane amount of bacteria and who knows what else is suddenly pumping thru your veins? It hits everyone at a different rate, from the severity of the bite, from exsanguination from a torn artery, to a steady infection that brings death... It also takes different times to reanimate, depending on how badly infected the person already was by the zombievirusbugwhatever.

Some people could have a lot of the prions or cells or viral incubating nano aliens or whatever and others could have very little...

The zombies kill you... a bullet kills you... a sudden heart attack kills you... and then the prionicviralalienvoodoohoodoogene kicks in and you return as a zombie.



I mean, can anyone remember anyone dying of natural causes, or a bullet (without a tap to the head?) in the show?



Also, I doubt the series will go the zombie baby route, [Spoiler] and I'm not sure if they will even do Lori like the comic... That would take balls....[end spoiler]

I think its a direction that's a little too touchy for the network...

[Dagny]

Andrea is the one that I think bears watching now, to see how she progresses, without the obsessive nature and baggage that Shane has... She seems to have been reborn hard, and might just become what Shane should have become... If that makes sense...

Right now she seems like Shane's acolyte, but in reality, I think she's gonna grow into something all together different...

Well, I hope so...

Ditto. She is not just a sharpshooter, she is sharp, period. I wonder what her motivation for going on is or will become.

And I'm also thinking that maybe they could leave Shane's departure from the show somewhat ambiguous -- just in case his new gig on Darabont's new show doesn't pan out.

[angelofwar]

Nice run down seer...but, what I'm trying to put my figner on is this:

The cops were dead zombies? Correct? How were they killed as humans? How were they killed as zombies??? Did they starve???

They had no bite marks, but they had no signs of having been killed as zombies either...I think the answers there, I just can't wrap my mind around it right now...

[mystic_1]

They had no bite marks, but they had no signs of having been killed as zombies either...

I was wondering the same thing.

mystic_1

[ineffableone]

For all you guys wondering about the dead cops, those are the two security guards Rick and Shane killed. Rick says they had no bite marks, but that they did have scratch marks, and speculated maybe the infection was spread not only by bite but scratch too, Shane grunts agreement.

So all this speculation about how did they get infected with out a wound to cause it is jumping the gun. They introduced that it might be the scratches, while leaving it ambiguous enough to possibly say later no it was something else.

[angelofwar]

Ok...so, we'll see if Rick decides to stay away from the bar in town (mentions "not going back", etc.), becasue it will be obvious that he knows the guys he killed will be zombies...or the one he shot in the head is and the other isn't...

Ok, I'll lay off the speculation now...

[Akin]

Ok...so, we'll see if Rick decides to stay away from the bar in town (mentions "not going back", etc.), becasue it will be obvious that he knows the guys he killed will be zombies...or the one he shot in the head is and the other isn't...

Ok, I'll lay off the speculation now...

He got 'em both in the head... the guy in front of the mirror with the first shot, then the fat guy with a coup de grace... one might wonder why he fired that third shot into a dead man if he didn't already know he'd get back up otherwise...

[akhilleus514]

Some people could have a lot of the prions or cells or viral incubating nano aliens or whatever and others could have very little...

I absolutely vote for this ^^^; like Night of the Comet. If this new wrinkle turns out to be so, then it's not a huge adjustment for society; people just learn to pop the noggin with a hammer and spike as part of last rites or what have you, or scramble the brains like Egyptians did with their mummies. Wasn't that in Zombie Survival Guide?

[wee drop o' bush]

Some people could have a lot of the prions or cells or viral incubating nano aliens or whatever and others could have very little...

If this new wrinkle turns out to be so, then it's not a huge adjustment for society; people just learn to pop the noggin with a hammer and spike as part of last rites or what have you, or scramble the brains like Egyptians did with their mummies. Wasn't that in Zombie Survival Guide?

In 'Rot & Ruin' and 'Dust & Decay' by Jonathan Maberry, everyone who dies reanimates as a Zom, the deceased must be quieted before reanimation can occur. The weapon of choice is a spike. People generally sleep alone in locked rooms so that if they die in their sleep & reanimate, they cannot attack those around them.
I haven't read Zombie Survival Guide yet though, so I'm not sure

[Silent Kube]

It strikes me that in a world where zombies exist, whether everyone reanimates or not, destroying the brain upon death makes a lot of sense. Just a little extra insurance. Kind of like when they started enbalming people. A big part of that was making sure they were dead before burial to avoid people being buried alive.

[majorhavoc]

It strikes me that in a world where zombies exist, whether everyone reanimates or not, destroying the brain upon death makes a lot of sense. Just a little extra insurance. Kind of like when they started enbalming people. A big part of that was making sure they were dead before burial to avoid people being buried alive.

Reminds me of the joke about the frantic 911 call received from a hunter:

911 operator: "Emergency dispatch, what is the nature of your emergency?"

Caller: "Oh my God! I don't know what to do! My buddy is dead!"

Operator: "Calm down sir. What happened?"

Caller: "My friend and I were out hunting; I'm calling from the woods. We're in some pretty rough terrain and he wasn't in the best of shape. All of the sudden he just clutched his chest, screamed and keeled over! Oh my God, I can't believe he's dead!"

Operator: "Sir, please calm down, OK? I need to make sure I understand your situation. Your friend just keeled over? Let's make sure he's really dead, OK? Can you check for me, sir? Make sure he's really dead?"

Caller: "Yeah, OK, I-I can do that." Sounds of footsteps through heavy brush, fumbling, then a single gunshot.

Caller: "OK. Now I'm sure he's dead. What do I do next?"

[SeerSavant]

Rot and Ruin was a fantastic book.....


You know, I'm gonna have to rewatch the episode... I remember them mentioning scratches, but not if they found any or not... Also, infection does a number on the skin and body... zombiefied mottling aside, they should see some evidence of infection, swelling destroyed tissue at the site, whatever....

Also, the reasoning behind my theory, is in the graphic novel, there are some who have survived zombie bites... So I don't think the bite is a killer, I think the killer is already there....

Imagine the constant synaptic firing of the brain actually holding the change at bay...

I'd also hypothesize that not everyone has the infection, or that some folks would have an natural immunity to the disease/whatever, inherent...


Regardless, I doubt the show will ever go into that territory... Nobody likes it when the Boogyman/monster/terror is demystified, or explained... the sense of not knowing adds to the horror, so why bother...

[ineffableone]

I just took a look at the scene where they are examining them.

Shane "Hey Rick. I don't see any bites."

Rick "Gotta be scratches then, this one's hand, the other one's cheek. They had walkers here, burnt bodies down the hill."

Shane "I guess its gotta be scratches then, huh."

Enough to give some explanation but not conclusive enough to later say it is something else. To me this whole part was setting up for later that there is some other vector for the infection they have not introduced yet. Subtle hints for those paying attention, without being too overt. Still enough blatant screen time for those who did not notice right away to remember later, or to show in the "previously on" recap when they do decide to make it more known. This is obviously leading somewhere or they would not have put so much time into showing Shane and Rick examining them and discovering no bites.

[majorhavoc]

Regardless, I doubt the show will ever go into that territory... Nobody likes it when the Boogyman/monster/terror is demystified, or explained... the sense of not knowing adds to the horror, so why bother...

This. It's like a great romantic comedy show with unresolved sexual tension: it's wonderful right up to the point when the couple finally gets in the sack. And then.... time to start soliciting scripts for the series finale because the heart and soul of the story just got deflated.

Rick and co. will learn more about this infection, probably including the fact that everyone will turn when they die. But the modality, the specifics, certainly a cure? That should always remain a tantalizing mystery. The day they figure everything out is the day the series runs out of steam.

[RickOShea]

This. It's like a great romantic comedy show with unresolved sexual tension: it's wonderful right up to the point when the couple finally gets in the sack. And then.... time to start soliciting scripts for the series finale because the heart and soul of the story just got deflated.

Moonlighting.

[wee drop o' bush]

This. It's like a great romantic comedy show with unresolved sexual tension: it's wonderful right up to the point when the couple finally gets in the sack. And then.... time to start soliciting scripts for the series finale because the heart and soul of the story just got deflated.

Moonlighting.

That was my first thought too! CSI:NY also

[majorhavoc]

This. It's like a great romantic comedy show with unresolved sexual tension: it's wonderful right up to the point when the couple finally gets in the sack. And then.... time to start soliciting scripts for the series finale because the heart and soul of the story just got deflated.

Moonlighting.

Bingo. RickOShea, will you marry me?

[wee drop o' bush]

This. It's like a great romantic comedy show with unresolved sexual tension: it's wonderful right up to the point when the couple finally gets in the sack. And then.... time to start soliciting scripts for the series finale because the heart and soul of the story just got deflated.

Moonlighting.

Bingo. RickOShea, will you marry me?

I do special rates in bridal makeup for ZS members

How exactly did we get here?^^^

[Tireur]

I'm a huge fan of the last episode, only because I still remember the bitter taste of the wasteland that was TWD 2.0.1-5

1) They can not, will not, kill Shane off. Because he is an American Hero Badass.

2) The oh so subtle script writing that bludgeons you over the head with an ambiguous maybe/maybe not about two local cops that may or may not have bite/scratch marks.

3) This is the important bit, and I am surprised I didn't see the anti-Shane crowd rejoicing, but he stabbed a blood licking Walker, then sliced himself again with the same knife.

Now that reflective shot of American Badass looking out the Kia window at the lone Zed in a field, that was him realizing the Code Alpha fuckup he just did to himself, SHANE JUST INFECTED HIMSELF playing Klingon blood brother with a walker in a school bus.
He either starts running a fever, psychosomatic himselfs into a fever, or removes himself from the tribe before he develops the inevitable fever and future walkerdom. All for the betterment of the group.

And ofcourse Rick knows all along he couldn't be infected, because Jenner may have might possibly have told him through alien PSD from Area 51 that the infection is already in all of us, even though everyone that's been bitten has turned within 24hrs and the only peeps that have turned have been bitten. That's why he shot Nebraska in the head.



FYI -- I had to read my own post back to myself three times and it still doesn't make sense. But I'll pay that price for being a TWD fan.

[L1Z4RD]

3) This is the important bit, and I am surprised I didn't see the anti-Shane crowd rejoicing, but he stabbed a blood licking Walker, then sliced himself again with the same knife.

I noticed that, too. But I don't think they'll run with it. Rick got zombie blood in his open wound, eyes and mouth from that zed dogpile. So if Shane eats it, continuity suggests that Rick would have to eat it, too.

[mystic_1]

1) They can not, will not, kill Shane off. Because he is an American Hero Badass.

Remember though that TWD has a strong tradition of "Anyone Can Die".

mystic_1

[Shroud]

This was my favorite episode in awhile. Other than them cutting themselves, I liked the change in Rick's attitude (even if he did have to "think about it" for awhile before he decides to off that kid, at least he understands the issue at hand). I liked that he and Shane finally got the obvious out in the open along with a good ol' brawl. Not so sure that will be the end of it, but at least some steam was blown off. And I liked just seeing both of them having a run in with some zombies without anyone else from the group in the picture. This is the only episode this season I've watched twice.

[mystic_1]

This is really nit-picky, but did anyone else roll their eyes at the opening punch that Rick threw at Shane? It was the slowest, most telegraphed haymaker I've seen in a while

I'm chalking it up as a mediocre stunt execution, although thinking on it a bit there could be in-universe reasons for Rick to give Shane a "fighting chance" rather than just coldcocking him with a jab.

mystic_1