MilCopp 2012 Carbine II class, June 9-10

[Jeriah]

The only reason I can think of to have a mag bolted/zip-tied to your rifle is if you can't have one in your weapon.

We can't even have that in Washington. I thought I was going to be clever and have one of the Izzy magazine 90 degree doohickey's and not have a "magazine inserted or round in chamber." They wrote into the law that you can't have the ammunition attached at all to the weapon. It isn't even a state criminal justice code or anything. It is in the fish and game code.

I have heard of that being the law elsewhere as well. California State Parks, maybe? I'm not sure.

[nimdabew]

well shouldn't the fish and game code only apply while actively hunting?

I will pull up the RCW. It is enforced by the fish and game warden, but is in the RCW's.

[nimdabew]

Chapter 77.15 RCW
Fish and wildlife enforcement code


RCW 77.15.460
Loaded firearm in vehicle — Unlawful use or possession — Penalty.

(1) A person is guilty of unlawful possession of a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle if:

(a) The person carries, transports, conveys, possesses, or controls a rifle or shotgun in or on a motor vehicle; and

(b) The rifle or shotgun contains shells or cartridges in the magazine or chamber, or is a muzzle-loading firearm that is loaded and capped or primed.

(2) A person is guilty of unlawful use of a loaded firearm if the person negligently shoots a firearm from, across, or along the maintained portion of a public highway.

(3) Unlawful possession of a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle or unlawful use of a loaded firearm is a misdemeanor.

(4) This section does not apply if the person:

(a) Is a law enforcement officer who is authorized to carry a firearm and is on duty within the officer's respective jurisdiction;

(b) Possesses a disabled hunter's permit as provided by RCW 77.32.237 and complies with all rules of the department concerning hunting by persons with disabilities.

(5) For purposes of this section, a firearm shall not be considered loaded if the detachable clip or magazine is not inserted in or attached to the firearm.

[Vicarious_Lee]

My first show in a commercial gallery opens April 27. If even a single, smaller piece sells, it should cover all of the expenses for both Steph and I, including tuition, ammo, and travel. (Or, at least, come very close to doing so.)

I would be particularly pleased if the painting of Steph with the AK sold, allowing her to get trained on the exact weapon she's holding in the painting. (Attire is likely to be somewhat different. And I don't think she'll run a "jungle taped" mag IRL.)

http://jeriahhildwine.com/artwork/25047 ... hanie.html

Well now I'm sad I can't see the pic fro mmy phone because it doesn't support flash, and I've seen your website and there's no fucking way I'm clicking it on my work computer.

[Kutter_0311]

(5) For purposes of this section, a firearm shall not be considered loaded if the detachable clip or magazine is not inserted in or attached to the firearm.

So, mags in mag pouches on the rifle case are G2G? That's how my AK rides. I think we ditched the cased/unloaded requirement in WI, but I'm not sure, so I haven't changed how I do anything. It works, not fucking with it...

If I felt I needed a rifle/mag, I'd carry a mag on my person for the rifle. And I did do that for several years...

Since we finally got CCW, I EDC a G35. Close enough to an AK for immediate action, until I fight my way to the rifle

[nimdabew]

(5) For purposes of this section, a firearm shall not be considered loaded if the detachable clip or magazine is not inserted in or attached to the firearm.

So, mags in mag pouches on the rifle case are G2G? That's how my AK rides. I think we ditched the cased/unloaded requirement in WI, but I'm not sure, so I haven't changed how I do anything. It works, not fucking with it...

If I felt I needed a rifle/mag, I'd carry a mag on my person for the rifle. And I did do that for several years...

Since we finally got CCW, I EDC a G35. Close enough to an AK for immediate action, until I fight my way to the rifle

It is a dumb law that is meant to just throw one more fine on top of poachers I think. It just gets in the way of my perfect car setup.

[Kutter_0311]

It is a dumb law that is meant to just throw one more fine on top of poachers I think. It just gets in the way of my perfect car setup.

More and more stupid laws get passed that way. I never used to mind, like many, but I've had my fill of dumb...

Lets stick to laws with clear purpose, huh?

[doc66]

I've got a new rifle to bring to class!

[Greg Focker]

I've got a new rifle to bring to class!

Are you going to let Dave throw handle it?

[Kutter_0311]

I've got a new rifle to bring to class!

Are you going to let Dave throw handle it?

I want to watch!

[Big B]

I've got a new rifle to bring to class!

Is it one of these?

[Vicarious_Lee]

Just saw the painting of Steph now that I'm at home. Fucking awesome, Jeriah. Love it.

ETA: L1zard, my wife is cool with having a huge Mexican firefighter crash at our house the Wednesday before MilCopp (that would be the 7th of June IIRC). So, if you can make it, you can drive from McAllen Wednesday, sleep here that night (we got a nice guest bedroom, but it's next to the room our son that doesn't sleep before about midnight every night stays in, so you get what you pay for), then ride out Thursday morning with me (I will have my AC fixed by then I'm positive).

I'm planning on staying at Braxton's Hole about 5 minutes from the range, so if you have any strong feelings about weird homoerotic shit, hotel accommodations are yours to acquire.

Google Maps is showing that your trip to my place is about the same as my trip to MilCopp, which is almost 9 hours.

I'm certainly game if you can make it.

[Jeriah]

Just saw the painting of Steph now that I'm at home. Fucking awesome, Jeriah. Love it.

Thanks, man.

[doc66]

I throw my own rifles, thank you.

It was not one of "those."

On another note, if anyone knows of a cheap Aim Point or EOTech for sale by someone, let me know, I had to get my spare one back from Junior's rifle.

[Braxton]

I've got a new rifle to bring to class!

What did you get?

Also, PICS!

[TheLastOne]

I throw my own rifles, thank you.

It was not one of "those."

On another note, if anyone knows of a cheap Aim Point or EOTech for sale by someone, let me know, I had to get my spare one back from Junior's rifle.

keep an eye out on your local armslist.com Seems like everyone is having an 'everything must go' sale around here!

[Bearcat]

I throw my own rifles, thank you.

It was not one of "those."

On another note, if anyone knows of a cheap Aim Point or EOTech for sale by someone, let me know, I had to get my spare one back from Junior's rifle.

keep an eye out on your local armslist.com Seems like everyone is having an 'everything must go' sale around here!

That's a good one or arfcom equipment exchange. I'm not a fan of that place, but I have bought a few things there for some good deals.

[nimdabew]

On another note, if anyone knows of a cheap Aim Point or EOTech for sale by someone, let me know, I had to get my spare one back from Junior's rifle.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=102562

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=100777

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=102400

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=101674

[doc66]

Thanks, but here's my idea of cheap; I paid $275 for my Aim Point ML3.

[nimdabew]

Thanks, but here's my idea of cheap; I paid $275 for my Aim Point ML3.

I will keep an eye out. EOTech preference?

[doc66]

Thanks, but here's my idea of cheap; I paid $275 for my Aim Point ML3.

I will keep an eye out. EOTech preference?

Actually, I have none! I'm going to be putting it on Junior's rifle and/or my build. I am not a brand whore, . So if you run across something in that range I'm game.


Oh, and thelastone, thanks a lot buddy. I'm calling a guy off armslist this afternoon about a trade. I hate you.

[Big B]

It was not one of "those."

Sorry, couldn't help myself...

On another note, if anyone knows of a cheap Aim Point or EOTech for sale by someone, let me know, I had to get my spare one back from Junior's rifle.

What's your price range? When I was at training a couple weeks ago a guy with me department was talking about selling his patrol rifle optic to upgrade.

[L1Z4RD]

ETA: L1zard, my wife is cool with having a huge Mexican firefighter crash at our house the Wednesday before MilCopp (that would be the 7th of June IIRC). So, if you can make it, you can drive from McAllen Wednesday, sleep here that night (we got a nice guest bedroom, but it's next to the room our son that doesn't sleep before about midnight every night stays in, so you get what you pay for), then ride out Thursday morning with me (I will have my AC fixed by then I'm positive).

I'm planning on staying at Braxton's Hole about 5 minutes from the range, so if you have any strong feelings about weird homoerotic shit, hotel accommodations are yours to acquire.

Google Maps is showing that your trip to my place is about the same as my trip to MilCopp, which is almost 9 hours.

I'm certainly game if you can make it.

I'm an American

It's still up in the air as of this point. And as for the homoerotica, I've been exposed to more than my fair share of it in my tenure as a firefighter.

[crypto]

I'm planning on staying at Braxton's Hole

I already called dibs on Braxton's hole. You get sloppy seconds when Im done.