Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

by **majorhavoc** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:29 pm

Searched for a prior post on this and didn't find anything. If I missed it, I just hope I'm not embarrassingly late to the party, like the guy who started that fifteenth duplicate thread about the double barrelled 1911.

http://www.guns.com/gilboa-snake-double-barreled-ar-15-8752.html

Don't know whether to laugh or cry about this one, but the engineering challenges behind the gas system alone do get my grudging admiration.

by **whisk.e.rebellion** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:34 pm

What's better than one barrel?

TWO BARREL!

What's better than two barrel?

FIVE BARREL!

/Louis Ramey

by **omega_man** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:38 pm

RG just threw this up on the chat thread. I subsequently threw up in my mouth.

by **Texas19Delta** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:50 pm

From the website "With one pull of the trigger, two bullets are fired an inch apart from each other".
So, the purpose is to get two 5.56 bullets on target. Let's see - a 5.56 bullet at 62 grains (XM855) times two rounds is 124 grains on target.
Seems like an overly complicated way to get 124 grains on target.
If only someone would invent a simple, reliable weapon system that got 124 grains on target with a single trigger pull.
Oh, wait a second, if I remember right, doesn't an AK chambered in 7.62x39 shoot a 124 grain bullet? And isn't the AK considered a simple, reliable weapon system?
Seems to me this double barrel AR a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

by **majorhavoc** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:55 pm

Texas19Delta wrote:Seems to me this double barrel AR a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

The only "problem" this product is designed to solve is fools with too much money. :roll:

by **Liff** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:05 pm

I am just that fool.

As a range toy, can you possible think of a better one? As an improvement to the regular AR? No. Toy? Yes.

I wonder if these are actually going to make it to market or not.

by **nimdabew** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:41 pm

!!!

MACHINE GUN

!!!

by **Regular Guy** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:50 pm

It would be too cool to run two akimbo.

In B Four FPS Russia.

by **flsgear** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:09 pm

The more I look at the pictures of this, the more I think that left barrel is higher than the right barrel by enough of a margin to totally screw accuracy. Anyone else?

see this picture:

by **majorhavoc** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:32 pm

flsgear wrote:The more I look at the pictures of this, the more I think that left barrel is higher than the right barrel by enough of a margin to totally screw accuracy. Anyone else?

see this picture:

You're way over-thinking this one, flsger. If that bothers you, why not ponder why this picture shows twin lasers (Frickin' Lasers! - sorry, I am taking medication for that). I mean twin lasers on a double barrelled weapon makes exactly - and I mean EXACTLY - as much sense as twin lasers on a single barrelled weapon. What is the operator trying to do? Aim for two spots at once?

Face it, applying logic to evaluate this product is about as fruitful as doing a literary analysis of the ingredients list on a package of Doritos.

by **RickOShea** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:01 pm

Wonder if it has an adjustment screw so you can change where the trajectories meet (like some of the cheaper double-rifles)?

I wonder if the sear releases are slightly off so that they don't fire exactly at the same time (what if your shooting premium ammo that's consistant enough for the boolitz to side-swipe each other just before they get to your target)?

What if you get a failure to extract on one side and a bolt over ride on the other, at the same time (how long is that going to take to clear)?

Will you void the warranty if you shoot steel?

....head hurts now.

by **Texas19Delta** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:48 pm

flsgear wrote:The more I look at the pictures of this, the more I think that left barrel is higher than the right barrel by enough of a margin to totally screw accuracy. Anyone else?

This is to nullify spin drift - the lower left barrel is lower so that the point of impact is the same.
Wait - that would only work if the barrels had different twist rates.
So confusing.

by **charlie505** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:04 pm

Perfect zombie gun - instant double tap!

by **shiddymunkie** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:59 pm

charlie505 wrote:Perfect zombie gun - instant double tap!

by **omega_man** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:06 pm

Shiddy my friend, that is fucking hilarious.

by **Neville** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:08 pm

nimdabew wrote:!!!

MACHINE GUN

!!!

Bingo. We have a winner.

According to ATF if it fires more than one round per trigger pull that's what it is.

Still looks fun though. Can you imagine what a conversation starter that would be.

by **NamelessStain** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:04 pm

Needs a second scope so you know where the right and left bullets go.

by **majorhavoc** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:19 pm

NamelessStain wrote:Needs a second scope so you know where the right and left bullets go.

Bing! Bing! Bing! Announcer, tell us what NamelessStain has just won!

by **Blacksmith** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:58 pm

NamelessStain wrote:Needs a second scope so you know where the right and left bullets go.

No silly that is what the lasers is for. What it needs is dual eotechs.

by **charlie505** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:09 pm

shiddymunkie wrote:
charlie505 wrote:Perfect zombie gun - instant double tap!

?????

by **the boz** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:57 pm

charlie505 wrote:
shiddymunkie wrote:
charlie505 wrote:Perfect zombie gun - instant double tap!

?????

blue text means you are not being serious.

you are an idiot if you like that gun!

see, its fun!

edit: maybe that was not the best phrase to use in blue, cause I do feel that way...

by **Tetra Grammaton Cleric** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:15 pm

majorhavoc wrote:
flsgear wrote:The more I look at the pictures of this, the more I think that left barrel is higher than the right barrel by enough of a margin to totally screw accuracy. Anyone else?

see this picture:

You're way over-thinking this one, flsger. If that bothers you, why not ponder why this picture shows twin lasers (Frickin' Lasers! - sorry, I am taking medication for that). I mean twin lasers on a double barrelled weapon makes exactly - and I mean EXACTLY - as much sense as twin lasers on a single barrelled weapon. What is the operator trying to do? Aim for two spots at once?

So you're sayin' three lasers is wrong as well?

-

by **Caenus** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:25 pm

Were'd you get the triple laser? Gonna put that on my judge.

by **Einher** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:45 pm

Only ONE scope?
C'mon, surely this great innovation requires some kind of two eyed bi-scope-nocular.