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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:40 pm 
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I will grab a VZ-58 as soon as Czechpoint ( I believe) releases their 5.56 variant they imported which should also come with a stanag adapter.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:53 am 
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gelgoog wrote:
I will grab a VZ-58 as soon as Czechpoint ( I believe) releases their 5.56 variant they imported which should also come with a stanag adapter.


Do want do want do want do want DO WANT.


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And here she is a little more old school. Has the Mako pistol grip, and standard upper handguard on her now. Oh yea, and my new folding stock. My new "pistol" according to Michigan.


How is anything with a stock on it considered a "pistol"? If it has a stock, it's not a pistol. I would imagine that Federal law would trump state law in this case...


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:27 pm 
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northernxposure wrote:
gelgoog wrote:
I will grab a VZ-58 as soon as Czechpoint ( I believe) releases their 5.56 variant they imported which should also come with a stanag adapter.


Do want do want do want do want DO WANT.


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And here she is a little more old school. Has the Mako pistol grip, and standard upper handguard on her now. Oh yea, and my new folding stock. My new "pistol" according to Michigan.


How is anything with a stock on it considered a "pistol"? If it has a stock, it's not a pistol. I would imagine that Federal law would trump state law in this case...


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Michigan says a rifle with a folding stock that is still capable of being shot with the stock folded and is under a certain length has to be registered as a pistol. Stupid, I know.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:34 am 
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That sucks RO, even here in Canada a folding stock does not change the classification of the firearm but we are limited to 5 shots in a semi automatic center fire firearm. The CZ858 up here comes with all the goodies and 4 magazines pinned to 5 shots for about $695 with the fixed or folding furniture which is a screaming deal.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:16 pm 
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Here is my CZ 858 with FAB Defense grip, forestock and NEA heavy muzzle brake:

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There is definitely a lot of aftermarket items you can stick on the VZ 58.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:56 pm 
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there is a tread about VZ58 ?? how did i never saw it ??

those guns look gorgeous.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:23 pm 
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Added a new NEA Cowitness upper rail, and a NEA Gen II lower handguard to my VZ today.

Ordered Friday from a place in Canada, got them today :)

Sling is a MagPul MS3.

Sorry for fuzzy pics. Can't get good pics with the new camera for the life of me.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:32 pm 
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Since we are doing VZ porn....

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ANd this one...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:13 pm 
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Nice blasters there Klenzer!

I tell you what, I have seen pics of them on other websites, and I really like the look of your NR barreled 58 with a fixed stock. Looks pretty bad ass.

Would be nice to be able to get those around here and put some home made/modded RPK furniture on it too :)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:00 pm 
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Thanks! There's waaaay too much money poured into the black one. It's probably as modded as you can make a VZ. Well... time to sell it. :)

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Since we are doing VZ porn....

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ANd this one...

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hey can you talk about the accuracy of your rifle ? how well it perform ?

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I think I am almost done with her. Just need a better optic, an offset light mount, and eventually get the muzzle extension off and put on an actual brake or flash hider. Again, sorry for the crappy pic.

NEA Co-witness upper rail, Gen II Lower.
FAB Defense pistol grip.
Magpul MS3 Sling
Magpul RVG
Factory Folding stock with AK Grenade launcher buttpad and pipe insulation padding.
Primary Arms Micro Dot

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Looking good :clap:

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How sturdy is the NEA rail? Looks good man yours definitely has a lot more stuff on it than mines(OEM lol). I bet that forward grip comes in handy after a couple of mags. The gun gets a little hot :P


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SA VZ 58 Porn :) I have to praise
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Thinking real hard about giving up my prize possession AIMS-74 and using the cash to buy a 58 and set up. Only I'd get a Century. Saw both , both red furnature, literally side by side and externally the Century was far better looking build, believe it or not. I know they did good on the G1 Sporter FALs and Sterlings subcontracted, CIA iis capable of making a nice rifle, though Century is synonymous with shoddy, cobbled shit . It's no pride of ownership but just maybe a functional weapon that can be driven like stolen.

My AIMS is one for a collector to enjoy, only got it because I knew I'd never see one again or parts to assemble. Definately an AK man but the VZ has a lot going for it, under rated as hell. One of the 7.5 or 12" pistols plus OEM folder would be a hell of a weapon to use and up there as a versatile firearm within appropriat range. Cant get SBR though so hand select 2008 Im thinking would do almost as well. Factory folder, factory enhanced PG (milspec one is child sized), upper HG rail with a T-1 and possibly light at 10:00 on Scout mount, factory
Muzzle device ( now SBRs would get a CQB-47 flash hider). In my mind all this put together amounts to a carbine as good as any, over 50 years later. I think scout scopes has a RSB mount, that with an RMR would run even lighter and streamlined...but no means of attaching a light, worthwhile option even to a KISS and traditionalist fanatic.

Still seems odd to wanna dump my custom, irreplacable pride and joy for a Century. Were SBR legal here would not think twice. In any case this is no time for a show piece poodle shooter (a Romanian AK collection will never happen). I want something 7.62, light, compact, free of rails in e ery direction, reliable, durable and simple.


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Only I'd get a Century. Saw both , both red furnature, literally side by side and externally the Century was far better looking build, believe it or not.


I can't believe that one of the Century rifles (which aren't bad, by the way!) out did build quality from a D-Technik Czechpoint. Maybe other than the grey looks MILES better than the black on mine (which will be getting rectified soon enough).

You won't go wrong with either I would say at the end of the day.....I do know that the Century rifles do not have chrome lined bores, but they are new Green Mountain barrels.

I am actually thinking about once I get it refinished to grey, stripping it down to basics a little more than it is now... Factory pistol grip and lower handguard, with my NEA upper rail with the factory folding stock.

I would like to know what you mean by this:
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factory enhanced PG (milspec one is child sized)
Can you post a pic of the factory enhanced grip?

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I meant like the one you have now, vs. the GI version made of the same reddish composite as the stock and handguards. I can't get my pinkie on that one.

Saw a great deal on a G model today I'm putting in layaway and hopefully keep the AIMS, so the 58 might have to stay back burner status for the time being


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Fred Burke wrote:
I meant like the one you have now, vs. the GI version made of the same reddish composite as the stock and handguards. I can't get my pinkie on that one.

Saw a great deal on a G model today I'm putting in layaway and hopefully keep the AIMS, so the 58 might have to stay back burner status for the time being


Here is a good place for a couple of US made better than the beaver barf grips.
Ronin VZ58 Grips

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the_klenzer wrote:

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What is the blaster on the bottom with the drum?


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What is the blaster on the bottom with the drum?


a .22 modern replica of the PPSH41.

it seem to have the 30 round or 50 round drum.

fun little toy, but not as durable as a ruger 10/22.

by the way'

what would be the best, a VZ58 in 7.62 or a VZ in 5.56 ?

i can have both but i wonder which one would be the most versatile ? reliability is not a issue.

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Azrael99,

How do you like that FAB but stock and tube? I am thinking about getting one of those. Is it pretty solid?

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well i don't own one, but i've carried a M4 for a long time , and a C7A2 too which had similar stock and foregrip

i would say that the ergonomy is nice, if you like that kind of stock and foregrip. since the 7.62X39 don't have a strong recoil, having a plastic collapsible stock is not a problem.

my personal choice for a front grip is a model similar to the pistol grip. like the Thompson had.

something similar to that.

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some people like those front grip

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i tried it and it don't feel good in my hand

but something like that. closer to the mag could maybe fit me.
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collapsible folding AR-type stock have 2 major advantage in my point of view.
-you can adjust the length of it to fit your need.
-you can fold the stock which make the gun smaller and easier to manipulate in tight space.

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Haha crap, I'm sorry. For some reason I failed at my homework and thought the VZ decked in green was yours :/

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