300 aac blackout?

[specops]

Ok so I believe I am going to get a 300 blackout ar upper along with my 5.45. But ammo is not cheap, so I want to reload but I have never reloaded. So how do I reload this ammo? I have seen these starter kits from lee for like $28. But they don't have one for 300 blackout, could I use a .308 kit or .223 since its like morphed 223 brass with a .30 cal bullet what would I do? Or does anyone know of any other cheap, cheap, cheap loading kits (under75-100). I found primed 300 blckout brass for $28/100 and .30 cal bullets for $15/100 what type of powder would I need?

[TDW586]

Brother, I'm sorry, but there's no quick and easy answer to this. Reloading is fairly complicated and requires a lot of research and a significant initial investment. No, you can't use a .223 or .308 "kit" to reload .300 AAC; you have to have the specific dies for the caliber you're reloading. Much of the equipment will be the same, but you have to have the specific dies.

.300 AAC will use W296 or H110 powder, but if you have no clue what you're doing, you're going to need to learn a lot before it would be safe to start trying reloading. Try reading this for the basics.

[BHP]

I will disagree with the last guy. Reloading is actually pretty simple but it is somewhat precise. If you can follow a recipe and create safe, edible food you can reload safely. It is the degree of precision that requires some level of care and knowledge. Buy a reloading manual and read it first. Look for forums that cater to the Blackout or Whisper guns and check their loading sections for caliber specific info.

.300 Whisper is the only round I currently load for and only because I can't buy what I want from a commercial loader. I will say that because of the very small case capacity in subsonic loads you have to be very precise with your charge. One tenth of a grain of powder in that small a case capacity makes a greater difference than in any caliber I've ever loaded for. It is the reason I purchased a digital scale/measure.

[Regular Guy]

Let me get back to you in about 6 months.

[Feral Donkey]

I'll tell you what the guy who taught me told me to do. First thing you do is get the Lyman reloading manual and read it. You don't need to read all the loading data, just the first half of the book.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/217655/lyman-reloading-handbook-49th-edition-reloading-manual-softcover

Then for equipment, start off with a good quality single stage press. The RCBS Rock Chucker kit is a really good one.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/937051/rcbs-rock-chucker-supreme-master-single-stage-press-kit

Then you should invest in a decent powder thower. I have a Hornaday Lock and Load. I have no complaints about it.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/290524/hornady-lock-n-load-powder-measure

Then you need to have a work space that's dedicated to it and nothing else. You'll need a bench that's strong and heavy. Maybe get some decent cabinets to store the powder and primers.

[Feral Donkey]

Stay away from Winchester powders until you really know what you're doing. I say this because if you forget what you have in your powder thrower, you might mistake it for pistol powder or mistake pistol powder for rifle powder because they looks so similar. That's a real easy way to make your gun into a Claymore mine. Having some A2 upper embedded in your skull doesn't sound like fun. Stick with IMR or other stick powders until you get your bearings.

[TDW586]

For someone like the OP, who may be a troll based on a PM he sent me and if not is clearly completely unfamiliar with even the basics of reloading, it is complicated. The tools and equipment alone would take significant research to identify, and the process takes more. If you're not willing to do that and looking for an easy, one-stop answer, reloading isn't for you, that was my point.

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[400 Grains]

Not sure why, but in the last 5 years, I've heard about, and have seen, more blow-ups due to bad reloads than in the 30 years before that. And back in the day, lots more people reloaded their own ammo.

I don't know if it's become a lost art, or people don't have the patience they once had, or what.....

[chills1994]

or it could be just the internet making bad news travel faster....and more gossipey...than 30 years ago.

back in 1982 we didn't have the internet, and we might have heard about a KABOOM! just at our range/club.

Now, we get to hear about KABOOMS! all across the country. with pics sometimes, too.

[ajk07734]

Ok so I believe I am going to get a 300 blackout ar upper along with my 5.45. But ammo is not cheap, so I want to reload but I have never reloaded. So how do I reload this ammo? I have seen these starter kits from lee for like $28. But they don't have one for 300 blackout, could I use a .308 kit or .223 since its like morphed 223 brass with a .30 cal bullet what would I do? Or does anyone know of any other cheap, cheap, cheap loading kits (under75-100). I found primed 300 blckout brass for $28/100 and .30 cal bullets for $15/100 what type of powder would I need?

Ok firstly You get what you pay for "Cheap Cheap Cheap" is just too vague. When it comes to .300 AAC, there are some options out there...when they have it in stock Midway has a VERY good price for Remington Supersonic factory, they also carry Atlanta Arms 125Gr, which is what i currently shoot, and the load i'm working up now will replicate that particular one. Dies, are not unreasonable $32.99 for Lee dies, another $12 for the Factory Crimp. Bullets, I generally dont go "Cheap" on while you reload to save money, reloading for Crap, is pointless. I use Nosler ballistic Tip which works out to $18.00 per 50. Brass I get from Brad's Whse ($114/500), Primers since it is an AR platform SHOULD be CCI #41 (Military) small rifle primers. and Powder is H110..Subsonics take a little different approach, with a VERY precise scale, and heavier bullets, generally 200gr and up, goijng as high as 247Gr Cast in some loads.

All of the above aside.. You are probably loooking if you are starting from Zero and going LOW end with say, the Lee Challenger single-stage kit from Midway $110 for the kit...with a round as "Twitchy' as .300 AAC, i would invest in a GOOD digital scale, you can always upgrade later..however i'm more of the "Buy Once, Cry Once" type..the MINIMUM I would go for in a press is the RCBS Rockchucker kit..probably double the initial cost, but it's a press that will last a lifetime, and accommodate any caliber on the planet below .50BMG For the sacle..Hornady has a very good, reliable and accurate Electronic one for < $100.00.

There are scads of Youtube videos showing different presses, and processes..Watch some of them, Reloading isnt a Haphazard type of thing..inattention to what you are doing can result in everything from damaged guns, to dead shooters. I dont know if i would START out reloading with the .300AA, maybe a lore forgiving round might be a better choice to get your feet wet.

[ajk07734]

or it could be just the internet making bad news travel faster....and more gossipey...than 30 years ago.

back in 1982 we didn't have the internet, and we might have heard about a KABOOM! just at our range/club.

Now, we get to hear about KABOOMS! all across the country. with pics sometimes, too.

This..what might take a couple of months to make to to one of the gun rags as an article, is now plastered all over the various gun Boards, generally with pictures in living color of any damage/injuries. Not that that is a BAD thing..sometimes a graphic view of the results of someone elses screwup is what you need to stay grounded.

[Black]

You need the 300BLK/whisper dies: http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=898

Reloading is not difficult, and doesn't require a super-expensive setup. The more money you invest in your setup, the more ammo you can reload in the shorter amount of time. That's about it. You can use a hand-press and reload one at a time if that's your fancy. The bad news you hear is generally from people doing experimental loads. I would befriend a local reloader who will show you the ropes - it's a hobby, and most reloaders won't hesitant to teach you the skill.

[Regular Guy]

I took my 300 BO brl off layaway. I'm sticking with 22, 5.56, 7.62x39 and 7.62x51mm. I just don't want to get into another caliber.

[OldSchool45b]

I agree and disagree with TDW. Reloading is not rocket science. It is fairly complicated to set up initially and your math skills should be spot on that day. But once it's done reloading is easy, as is checking to maintain your tolerances. If you screw it up on the initial set up the results could be disastrous. If you are just getting started get someone that knows what they are doing to help you set it up and walk you through it. Dillon has by far the best customer service I have ever come across in the gun industry.

Make sure you mark your powder dispensers with what is in them! It is easy when you have multiple set ups to get confused and put in the wrong powder. If you do this.....

[TDW586]

I agree and disagree with TDW. Reloading is not rocket science. It is fairly complicated to set up initially and your math skills should be spot on that day. But once it's done reloading is easy, as is checking to maintain your tolerances. If you screw it up on the initial set up the results could be disastrous. If you are just getting started get someone that knows what they are doing to help you set it up and walk you through it. Dillon has by far the best customer service I have ever come across in the gun industry.

Make sure you mark your powder dispensers with what is in them! It is easy when you have multiple set ups to get confused and put in the wrong powder. If you do this.....

The guy who posted this thread PM'd me to ask whether he could measure out the powder and then beat the projectiles into the casing with a rubber mallet, okay? So I stand by my original advice, he needs to stay away from reloading.

[OldSchool45b]

No he doesn't! He needs to video it and have his survivors upload the video. That is fucking stupid in the extreme. That pm needs in the hall of shame. LOL! I LOVE the specops name too. Must be an airsoft thing.

[TDW586]

What seems simple after years of shooting, reading about, working on, and generally being around guns is incredibly complex to people who only know firearms through airsoft, video games and action movies.

Actually, since he's disappeared from the board, I'm assuming the OP was a troll just looking for a response. I choose to not believe that anyone would actually think that was a good idea. For my own sanity and faith in the world, I have to believe that.

[OldSchool45b]

I had a MSG, 18B tell me it was ok to shoot a delinked MK-19 round in his M203..... Sorry brother, I don't have any faith left. LOL. I told him repeatedly that it COULD but shouldn't and he insisted. Finally his Team LDR stepped in and squared him away. I wanted to video tape that one too.....

[TDW586]

I had a MSG, 18B tell me it was ok to shoot a delinked MK-19 round in his M203..... Sorry brother, I don't have any faith left. LOL. I told him repeatedly that it COULD but shouldn't and he insisted. Finally his Team LDR stepped in and squared him away. I wanted to video tape that one too.....

Yeah, I've heard that one myself. Let's all say it together, "chamber pressure", M203 up to 12,000, Mk19 around 35,000.

[OldSchool45b]

When I ask him why the M203 went 400m, and the MK-19 went over 1000m he said longer barrel. And this guy was an 18B! Granted, he was a MSG, on his First deployment on an adhoc Team made up of guys around the GPR HQ.....

[Bender711]

Just because you are a solider/cop doesn't mean you know anything about guns.

[OldSchool45b]

Oh I agree! But an 18B is a Special Forces WEAPONS SGT. So in this case you can see why I was so surprised and dismayed. I have found in working with cops and soldiers that their level of familiarization with guns is not really any better than the population as a whole. Some know, some don't.

[TDW586]

Unfortunately, that is the case. I'd expect better of an 18B, but I can't say I'm shocked.

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[Liff]

Edit: I brought this up because this thread is spent. Titled 300 aac blackout, was really asking about reloading, then shifted to M203 vs Mk19. yeah, this is pretty much a worthless thread now; so I muck it up further:

The guy who posted this thread PM'd me to ask whether he could measure out the powder and then beat the projectiles into the casing with a rubber mallet, okay? So I stand by my original advice, he needs to stay away from reloading.

http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-t ... f-pakistan Go to 4:08 or so. Based on their success, I would recommend a regular hammer. This is why I do not shoot other people's reloaded ammo. My reloads or factory loaded.

I fired the Mk19 one time ever, way back in 95. I thought I remembered that Mk19 and M203 used the same rounds. Then again, I was air wing. Meh.